Jon Tenuta

PonyDoh · Post by **PonyDoh** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:46 pm

Tenuta is a phenomenal coordinator, but he had it written into his contract at Tech that he didn't have to recruit. He's a stern guy, not much of a fundraiser or schmoozer and doesn't really recruit

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:52 pm

if Tenuta, Gailey, Johnson and Coker have really been under consideration, then we've got someone who doesn't understand what SMU needs to turn this program around. I sense a coach'em up philosophy which will end in another disaster. These guys are more of the same. None of these guys will inspire the alumni, put a new image on a downtrodden program or are likely to be able to recruit the type of talent this program needs to shed 20 years of this same old crap. I agree Turner Gill would be a better hire. I know you aren't a fan of Doherty but that's why he was hired, that's what he has attempted to do and I think SMU fans generally like the hire. Look for the same qualities that SMU looked at in hiring Doherty. I submit that Barnett, Franchione, Gill, Graham, Neuheisal(if he hadn't been hired by UCLA) were those guys. I have little doubt Todd Dodge will prove to be the same type of hire too-look at the qualities SMU needs not just the best Ole Ball Coach. Being a Division 1A Coach requires more than Xs and Os. That's why you hire Coordinators.

NavyCrimson · Post by **NavyCrimson** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:08 pm

I remember Meeks was a great coach but couldn't recruit. What disaster our 50's football program was.

PK · Post by PK » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:13 pm

Stallion wrote:if Tenuta, Gailey, Johnson and Coker have really been under consideration, then we've got someone who doesn't understand what SMU needs to turn this program around. I sense a coach'em up philosophy which will end in another disaster. These guys are more of the same. None of these guys will inspire the alumni, put a new image on a downtrodden program or are likely to be able to recruit the type of talent this program needs to shed 20 years of this same old crap. I agree Turner Gill would be a better hire. I know you aren't a fan of Doherty but that's why he was hired, that's what he has attempted to do and I think SMU fans generally like the hire. Look for the same qualities that SMU looked at in hiring Doherty. I submit that Barnett, Franchione, Gill, Graham, Neuheisal(if he hadn't been hired by UCLA) were those guys. I have little doubt Todd Dodge will prove to be the same type of hire too-look at the qualities SMU needs not just the best Ole Ball Coach. Being a Division 1A Coach requires more than Xs and Os. That's why you hire Coordinators.

I assume from your description above that you would not favor June Jones either based upon the recruiting factor. I know this years recruiting will suffer big time regardless of the hire, but in your opinion from a perspective of future recruiting, does a really good coach even without many local recruiting ties stand a chance if he can load up with good assistants who do have good local recruiting ties?

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:17 pm

June Jones isn't interested in the SMU job-so I'm not going to worry too much about it. If June Jones is allowed to offer the same players as Hawaii it wouldn't be a problem. He won't. He will not be interested in this job. I have nothing but praise about June Jones Coaching ability.

PK · Post by PK » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:20 pm

Stallion wrote:June Jones isn't interested in the SMU job-so I'm not going to worry to much about it. If June Jones is allowed to offer the same players as Hawaii it wouldn't be a problem. He won't. He will not be interested in this job. I have nothing but praise about June Jones Coaching ability.

What about Shula? Do you think he is a possibility and if so would he also be at a disadvantage recruiting much like Jones?

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:22 pm

forgot about him-never seen any indications he was interested but as I've said many times he is the closest possible example there probably is in the Country to a Matt Doherty Clone-he fits the profile of what SMU should be looking for.

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:22 pm

So let me get this straight...Tenuta was D-Coordinator under Rossley (who was fired, right?), then one year under at OU under Schnellenberger (who was fired, right?) then under John Cooper at Ohio State (who was fired, right?) and then under Gailey at Ga Tech (who was also fired, right?)

And someone else says he didn't even have to recruit at Georgia Tech?

So allllllllllll of those other jobs he had got the HC fired because the offense sucked? Exactly who is it that has groomed Tenuta as a game day HC? Gailey? Exactly which of those positions required Tenuta & his superior(s) to build a program? Ohio State? Oklahoma? Definitely not SMU.

Someone tell me the appeal on this guy?

Oh yeah, for you big Copeland fans out there...guess where Tenuta played college ball.

Billy Joe · Post by **Billy Joe** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:25 pm

The new coach will have had Div. 1 or NFL head coaching experience.....a proven winner in the past. SMU is offering too much money to get a coordinator.

CurrentStang · Post by **CurrentStang** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:26 pm

this would not be a WOW hire, and certainly not worthy of the war chest we have assembled

QuikSStang · Post by **QuikSStang** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:28 pm

Billy Joe wrote:The new coach will have had Div. 1 or NFL head coaching experience.....a proven winner in the past. SMU is offering too much money to get a coordinator.

my sentiments exactly. we are not going to throw $2M at someone with little or no coaching experience who has never proved anything

BRStang · Post by **BRStang** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:31 pm

QuikSStang wrote:
Billy Joe wrote:The new coach will have had Div. 1 or NFL head coaching experience.....a proven winner in the past. SMU is offering too much money to get a coordinator.

my sentiments exactly. we are not going to throw $2M at someone with little or no coaching experience who has never proved anything

This I pray.

Scoops · Post by **Scoops** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:28 am

Stallion wrote:if Tenuta, Gailey, Johnson and Coker have really been under consideration, then we've got someone who doesn't understand what SMU needs to turn this program around.

Clearly they're not aware of your dissertations here.

Stallion wrote:... None of these guys will inspire the alumni...

to do what, donate time and energy and money and join the Mustang Club? Tell us what coach would inspire you to do those!

By the way, Tenuta allegedly will interview for the position soon.

Statler · Post by **Statler** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:52 am

All Darth can think of is...."We're doomed!"

The buzz is Tenuta. Gee Darth was planning to go the funeral pyre, but it looks like he will be around for a long time....

(Another unproven shot in the dark DC....) Will the insanity ever end.....

How can people who make more money than (pick your deity), foul this thing up so bad.....

westexSMU · Post by **westexSMU** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:05 am

[quote="Stallion"]if Tenuta, Gailey, Johnson and Coker have really been under consideration, then we've got someone who doesn't understand what SMU needs to turn this program around. I sense a coach'em up philosophy which will end in another disaster. These guys are more of the same. None of these guys will inspire the alumni, put a new image on a downtrodden program or are likely to be able to recruit.[/quote]...................Stallion you are right. Tenuta is without question a very good DC, but as I understand, no personality, not a great recruiter, and therefore not Head Coach material at SMU. It really would be unbelievable if SMU hired Tenuta as our Head Coach with the job of rebuilding our program. Hell, I think Larry Coker would be better.....This has got to be all wrong or we are in big trouble or have no idea what we are doing.