What the BCS Matchups Should Have Been

[Big Hoss]

As for the scheduling, the BCS system, as is, incentivizes teams to not schedule tough non-conf opponents (look at Hawaii). These two issues are directly related. Go look up the multiple playoff related threads.

I don't have to look up the previous threads on playoffs to see the point you're driving at. I may just disagree with you in the case of Hawaii because even their conf schedule was weak!

One interesting thing about not having a playoff system is that every game throughout the season matters. Losing just 1 game, in many years, can cost you your chance at the national championship game. The system is not perfect, but I am not sure a full playoff is the answer either.

[Pony Soup]

Since I guess you didnt read them, I am for a playoff system that includes coference champions and a handful of at-large teams. My main reason for this is to give every player, on every team, the dream that they have a shot and to give the big programs an incentive to play big-time regular season n-c games.

I personally hate watching teams like texas play ark st, cental fl, etc.

[perunapower]

I personally hate watching teams like texas play ark st, cental fl, etc.

Why? Those were good games. Honestly, Ark. State got robbed against Texas and UCF shot themselves in the foot towards the end, if I remember right.

[Pony Soup]

I could have used the Mich/app st example. It doesn't matter that app st won - they shouldn't have played. A good system would get schools to schedule n-c games between top-ranked teams. If you prefer to watch games that should be over before they start then thats great, I think most people would prefer better matchups

[perunapower]

I could have used the Mich/app st example. It doesn't matter that app st won - they shouldn't have played. A good system would get schools to schedule n-c games between top-ranked teams. If you prefer to watch games that should be over before they start then thats great, I think most people would prefer better matchups

But then you would have essentially created two layers of college football. Non-BCS schools wouldn't be able to improve their visibility, improve their stature, and most importantly gain revenue. BCS schools would have an even greater stranglehold and the rest of us would be pushed into submission.

It might prove to be a blowout, but then again it's those unexpected wins that get everyone's attention. The App. St. vs. Michigan game, the Stanford vs. USC game, etc. If you segregate the non-BCS from the BCS, do not expect to gain opportunities to compete for anything more than a conference championship.

[Big Hoss]

I could have used the Mich/app st example. It doesn't matter that app st won - they shouldn't have played. A good system would get schools to schedule n-c games between top-ranked teams. If you prefer to watch games that should be over before they start then thats great, I think most people would prefer better matchups

Then how would the teams get into these playoffs? Probably based on record, right? Soooooo, exactly how is the playoff system much different than what we have today? You would still have large schools scheduling cupcake schools for their non-conf games.

And if you haven't figured it out yet, it's not about what most people want. It's about working the system to get the team into the best bowl as possible. A playoff system would simply make the schools work the revised system to get the best ranking in the playoffs.

And who would decide the rankings in these proposed playoffs? My guess is that it would be a system much like you have today, with a combo of polls and computer rankings. In any system they put together, someone is going to be pissed off. Just ask the bubble teams that get left out of March Madness.

[J.T.supporta]

I think these games would have been much more interesting than the current ones. What do yall think? Does anybody have matchups that would be better than this one or the current BCS ones?

Rose: Oklahoma vs. Ohio State
Sugar: Georgia vs. VaTech
Orange: Hawaii vs. West Virginia
Fiesta: Mizzou vs. Arizona St.
Championship: LSU vs. USC

im sorry but your matchups are [deleted]...granted im being picky because each bowl has special obligations to pick a certain conference champ.

if you really think ASU deserved to play in the BCS, then you believe that Illinois deserved to play in the Rose Bowl.

you people should realize that the BCS is not about making the best bowl game, its all about Money...thats why KU got the bid over Mizzou.

and if some of yall think Hawaii was a joke to make it to the BCS, look at the other non BCS teams that played.

Utah-played a very weak Pitt team in the Fiesta Bowl a few years ago
Boise-played a decent team that overlooked them in every possible way
Hawaii-played probably the best team in college football now

UGA has been on a tear since the UF game...Richt is a great coach and would never allow his team to lose to a non BCS team in a BCS bowl game

[StangEsq]

Why is it Hawaii's fault that they are in a crap conference? It would be different if they could choose their conference. Unfortunately, that's not the way the NCAA works. Teams are excluded from the chance to compete on an even playing field.

[Pony Soup]

Like I said before, my playoff setup would include all conference champions and a handful of at-large teams, which would make the big schools need to make their case in the non conf games.

[Big Hoss]

Richt is a great coach and would never allow his team to lose to a non BCS team in a BCS bowl game

So I guess Stoops "allowed" his team to get beat last year? I don't think it's all coaching during this game. It's also that Hawaii is outmatched. Hawaii this year is not Boise State from last year.

[J.T.supporta]

Richt is a great coach and would never allow his team to lose to a non BCS team in a BCS bowl game

So I guess Stoops "allowed" his team to get beat last year? I don't think it's all coaching during this game. It's also that Hawaii is outmatched. Hawaii this year is not Boise State from last year.

heres a quote i heard today, "teamwork beats out talent anyday"

stoops didnt allow his team to get beat...im sure he prepared his team as best as they could but BSU played as a team, OU didnt last year.

[Big Hoss]

Like I said before, my playoff setup would include all conference champions and a handful of at-large teams, which would make the big schools need to make their case in the non conf games.

And for the teams whose records are identical, it would still come down to the same things: strength of schedule, polls (aka "opinions"), computer rankings, etc. etc. At some point, on the margin, you hit the same issues people complain about today.

[Pony Soup]

For 4 or 5 spots, yes. But even then you have 16 teams settle it on the field. Politics get left behind in December and the best team introduces themselves to the world.

[J.T.supporta]

Like I said before, my playoff setup would include all conference champions and a handful of at-large teams, which would make the big schools need to make their case in the non conf games.

And for the teams whose records are identical, it would still come down to the same things: strength of schedule, polls (aka "opinions"), computer rankings, etc. etc. At some point, on the margin, you hit the same issues people complain about today.

might as well make the FBS into a HS playoff system and carry it out from the first week of december

[Pony Soup]

Note that this also require all conferences to determine their championship in the same way, most likely a champ. game