Hawaii Players Charge Fans for Autographs

SmooBoy · Post by **SmooBoy** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:23 pm

MrMustang1965 wrote:"It feels good, man. It's touching," said wide receiver Jason Rivers. "Just like when we were out in Louisiana, they didn't have to come. But they spent to come out there in the cold weather and support us."

Just how cold was it inside the Superdome?

huskerpony · Post by **huskerpony** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:33 pm

Dutch wrote:
Grider wrote:Aren't these guys seniors and therefore not players anymore? Does it matter who they take money from now?

<Edit>
I saw a list of the players on a Hawaii message board and it said they were all seniors, but I can't find the link now.

I may be wrong, but i think it still does if they are enrolled in school on their athletic scholarships.

It doesn't matter. Tressel just got slammed at Ohio St for rewarding two players for becoming academic all-americans by taking them to the Final Four. They were seniors, (I believe may have even graduated early,) and were already signed by agents. He got a secondary violation for it, but it's still against the rules.

Otherwise they would have boosters saying--"hey, come here, and if you do well, as soon as you finish your senior bowl game we'll buy you a house."

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:33 pm

Jones is tainted. Who's next on the list?

SMU_is_bowling · Post by **SMU_is_bowling** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:40 pm

this is sad if it is true . . . paying for College players autographs . . . they should be ashamed, like they are anything yet! although in that state, I guess they are everything!!!

The XtC · Post by **The XtC** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:49 pm

[quote="huskerpony"][quote="Dutch"][quote="Grider"]Aren't these guys seniors and therefore not players anymore? Does it matter who they take money from now?

<Edit>
I saw a list of the players on a Hawaii message board and it said they were all seniors, but I can't find the link now.[/quote]

I may be wrong, but i think it still does if they are enrolled in school on their athletic scholarships.[/quote]

It doesn't matter. Tressel just got slammed at Ohio St for rewarding two players for becoming academic all-americans by taking them to the Final Four. They were seniors, (I believe may have even graduated early,) and were already signed by agents. He got a secondary violation for it, but it's still against the rules.

Otherwise they would have boosters saying--"hey, come here, and if you do well, as soon as you finish your senior bowl game we'll buy you a house."[/quote]

Actually, it does make a difference. For the Hawaii seniors, their final season of competition is complete, and they are no longer subject to NCAA regulations. Now that their season is over and eligibility is expired, they will not perform in any future NCAA sanctioned competitions, so they are no longer governed by NCAA rules. Also, this means that none of those seniors at Hawaii can play a spring sport (baseball, or track for instance), because they have accepted money that was directly related to their athletic performance.

huskerpony · Post by **huskerpony** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:53 pm

The XtC wrote:Actually, it does make a difference. For the Hawaii seniors, their final season of competition is complete, and they are no longer subject to NCAA regulations. Now that their season is over and eligibility is expired, they will not perform in any future NCAA sanctioned competitions, so they are no longer governed by NCAA rules. The difference for the players at Ohio State is that their season isnt over yet. Also, this means that none of those seniors at Hawaii can play a spring sport (baseball, or track for instance), because they have accepted money that was directly related to their athletic performance.

The Ohio State situation occurred last year. The Final Four occurs in March and the first week of April. Not during football season.

The players had already completed their final competition and had already signed with agents. That's why Tressel thought it was OK. He was wrong and got reprimanded by the NCAA. No probation or anything, but was handed a number of secondary violations.

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:00 pm

I don't know if whistle blowing on UH within the 72 hr period is the best idea right now...

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:01 pm

SMUer wrote:I don't know if whistle blowing on UH within the 72 hr period is the best idea right now...

...read yesterday's DMN article again...Steve O said there is no deadline...i.e. 72 hour ultimatum.

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:02 pm

MrMustang1965 wrote:
SMUer wrote:I don't know if whistle blowing on UH within the 72 hr period is the best idea right now...
...read yesterday's DMN article again...Steve O said there is no deadline...i.e. 72 hour ultimatum.

well then, by all means...

[the 72 was reported by Mark Norris at the Daily Campus whose only sources are basically Turner, Orsini and maybe Steinberg...I don't know why he'd rush to break a story with a complete falsehood as its first sentence with an hour deadline that seems arbitrary at best..."we should know by this weekend" does not turn into "72 hour deadline" that easily.]

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:03 pm

It's a ploy by Hawai'i to keep SMU from getting him. They know that SMU does not consider cheaters on the A list, so they expose some cheating that happened on his watch, and...Presto! One less suitor.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:05 pm

...and when did this spelling of Hawai'i begin? :roll:

I learned it as HAWAII, no apostrophe in there. WTF is up with this? :evil:

Is this some snobbish way that the islanders spell their state's name?

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:06 pm

no respect for the native language. You're the reason everybody thinks SMU is a joke.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:07 pm

jtstang wrote:no respect for the native language. You're the reason everybody thinks SMU is a joke.

PTFOOM then...do you see Hawaii spelled that way on maps?

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:09 pm

No respect for the native language, and now you're speaking martian. No wonder everybody thinks SMU is such a joke.

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:13 pm

jtstang wrote:No respect for the native language, and now you're speaking martian. No wonder everybody thinks SMU is such a joke.

jt: I thought surely you'd know what PTFOOM means. My apologies for offending anyone from the island regarding the native language.

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