Hawaii Players Charge Fans for Autographs

PlanoStang · Post by **PlanoStang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:42 pm

You have to be gigged first. Sorry, no anethesia beforehand.

that's great raplh · Post by **that's great raplh** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:20 pm

mm5 will sell autographed hawaii stuff on his ebay store in five days

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:29 pm

that's great raplh wrote:mm5 will sell autographed hawaii stuff on his ebay store in five days

who's mm5?
(FYI: I closed my ebay store several months ago...no market for it)

MrMustang1965 · Post by **MrMustang1965** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:37 pm

PlanoStang wrote:You have to be gigged first. Sorry, no anethesia beforehand.

EastStang · Post by **EastStang** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:43 pm

The XtC wrote:
huskerpony wrote:
Dutch wrote:
Grider wrote:Aren't these guys seniors and therefore not players anymore? Does it matter who they take money from now?

<Edit>
I saw a list of the players on a Hawaii message board and it said they were all seniors, but I can't find the link now.

I may be wrong, but i think it still does if they are enrolled in school on their athletic scholarships.

It doesn't matter. Tressel just got slammed at Ohio St for rewarding two players for becoming academic all-americans by taking them to the Final Four. They were seniors, (I believe may have even graduated early,) and were already signed by agents. He got a secondary violation for it, but it's still against the rules.

Otherwise they would have boosters saying--"hey, come here, and if you do well, as soon as you finish your senior bowl game we'll buy you a house."

Actually, it does make a difference. For the Hawaii seniors, their final season of competition is complete, and they are no longer subject to NCAA regulations. Now that their season is over and eligibility is expired, they will not perform in any future NCAA sanctioned competitions, so they are no longer governed by NCAA rules. Also, this means that none of those seniors at Hawaii can play a spring sport (baseball, or track for instance), because they have accepted money that was directly related to their athletic performance.

On the spring sport thing, I thought they changed that rule a few years back. That is how we had a QB who had played minor league baseball. On the other hand, there was that Colorado football player who got denied eligibility because he had ski endorsement deals. Its very murky.

southerncomfort · Post by **southerncomfort** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:53 pm

Aaa yes, I believe that would be Jeremy Bloom. Very nice to look at.

huskerpony · Post by **huskerpony** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:39 pm

EastStang wrote:
The XtC wrote:
huskerpony wrote:
Dutch wrote:
Grider wrote:Aren't these guys seniors and therefore not players anymore? Does it matter who they take money from now?

<Edit>
I saw a list of the players on a Hawaii message board and it said they were all seniors, but I can't find the link now.

I may be wrong, but i think it still does if they are enrolled in school on their athletic scholarships.

It doesn't matter. Tressel just got slammed at Ohio St for rewarding two players for becoming academic all-americans by taking them to the Final Four. They were seniors, (I believe may have even graduated early,) and were already signed by agents. He got a secondary violation for it, but it's still against the rules.

Otherwise they would have boosters saying--"hey, come here, and if you do well, as soon as you finish your senior bowl game we'll buy you a house."

Actually, it does make a difference. For the Hawaii seniors, their final season of competition is complete, and they are no longer subject to NCAA regulations. Now that their season is over and eligibility is expired, they will not perform in any future NCAA sanctioned competitions, so they are no longer governed by NCAA rules. Also, this means that none of those seniors at Hawaii can play a spring sport (baseball, or track for instance), because they have accepted money that was directly related to their athletic performance.

On the spring sport thing, I thought they changed that rule a few years back. That is how we had a QB who had played minor league baseball. On the other hand, there was that Colorado football player who got denied eligibility because he had ski endorsement deals. Its very murky.

It is a little murky. You can also sign with an agent before you leave school too--although you may not be able to take the signing bonus right away???? (Reggie Bush? Is the issue that he supposedly took it before the NC game? or before he graduated?) I think it may have something to do with declaring yourself a pro athlete. I'm fairly certain that taking direct cash payments from fans is definitely not allowed at any point though!