Possible June Jones Staff?

[huskerpony]

I don't know how many of those guys Jones could get to leave. Lumpkin has been a fixture at Hawaii and I would expect he might be hired to replace Jones. Some on his staff are "Hawaii guys"

My guess would be that McMackin would be the key hire. He's got both college and pro experience and was pretty well thought of at TTech, wasn't he? I would think Jones will want guys who know Texas. Gotta hope part of SMU's offer is that Jones will have a big enough budget to hire a quality staff and be able to retain them

Per UH boards, McMackin has said he would only stay at UH as long as Jones stays. I think it is pretty likely he will follow him. The two years he was there are also the two years they won the WAC. Hopefully he is part of the package.

I would want McKnight, the O-Line coach, too. After watching that video someone posted last night! (watch the beginning of part 2 from the list of related videos) That guy rules. Classic assistant coach.

[huskerpony]

So what exactly is the difference between the "spread" and the "run and shoot"?

In a spread, you have multiple receivers "spread" across the field. It is an option passing attack where the QB checks down different receivers until he finds an open man. Very difficult to defend because it usually requires man-coverage.

A run and shoot, is basically a mixture of a running game and play-action passes with lots of quick dump passes over the middle, often times involving the tight ends. These are usually more timing routes than a check down system.


.....my analysis, as a former lineman. Any former skill players, feel free to correct me if I missed the boat on that one!

[OC Mustang]

So what exactly is the difference between the "spread" and the "run and shoot"?

Spread is really a variation on triple option...the options being FB, QB, or pass. The idea is that an opposing defense can not effectively sandbag their scheme for one particular option b/c the "spread" leaves the field open for all of them. The blocking scheme is most often zone read, which forces your lineman to play advanced technique all of the time as well as pick their block every play. Communication among lineman is key.

The run shoot's philosophy starts with spreading the field and forcing the defense to play man coverage when the opposing team may not have the personnel to do so. That leaves the defense to blitzing often, and that opens up a new can of worms. It is a pass-first/pass-always scheme with the blocking scheme created to 'gap and trap' on runs and conventional pass-block on passes. There is a rollout variant where the o-line collapses on one side to give the impression that the QB is going to go himself. That forces the linebackers to back off the blitz to cover the flats, and d-backs are more easily burned in the middle and down the sideline. Communication among the QB and WRs is key, as the receivers "check down" their routes before the play. The QB and WRs have to be trained to see the same thing when they look at a defense so the QB knows which way a WR will break on a route.

They often look the same, but rarely does a 'run and shoot' line up dual backs in the backfield unless the pass-blocking is failing outright.

[Stallion]

the Run and Shoot does not utilize any TEs-they usually don't even recruit any TEs. Which is not good for 7 TEs on our roster who likely would be moved.

[ALEX LIFESON]

With the dire straits that we are in at OT, could be time to look at Vincent Chase. Two years ago, thats where the coaches thought he would end up anyway.

[KnuckleStang]

In that case, even better, we'll put them all on the J. Rogers diet for a year and move them to interior line positions. That's what the big time schools do anyway right?

[mrydel]

the Run and Shoot does not utilize any TEs-they usually don't even recruit any TEs. Which is not good for 7 TEs on our roster who likely would be moved.

I guess that is a good thing for the 6 that always just sat on the bench.

[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

the Run and Shoot does not utilize any TEs-they usually don't even recruit any TEs. Which is not good for 7 TEs on our roster who likely would be moved.

Well, at least we have a few more bodies for the QB position now

[bigdaddy08091]

Don't make the offenses complicated. In the pros they call it the west coast offense, utilizing the tightend as an extra receiver. The TE has to be athletic. Defenses are to athletic. Run and shoot and spread are the same thing. Name has changed over the years, but the offense has not. It has gotten better due to osmosis. The spread and the run and shoot operate off of what the defense does. You must have a QB that can react to the defense. Graham Harrell is the best at it right now. He should have been in the heisman race. He is better than Daniel and Brennan.

[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

Don't make the offenses complicated. In the pros they call it the west coast offense, utilizing the tightend as an extra receiver. The TE has to be athletic. Defenses are to athletic. Run and shoot and spread are the same thing. Name has changed over the years, but the offense has not. It has gotten better due to osmosis. The spread and the run and shoot operate off of what the defense does. You must have a QB that can react to the defense. Graham Harrell is the best at it right now. He should have been in the heisman race. He is better than Daniel and Brennan.

Funny...The Run and Shoot that I remember from the Oilers,Falcons and Lions of the late 80s-early 90s looks nothing like the "west coast offense" that teams utilize today. Mostly because, I don't know, maybe there was no TE in those Run and Shoot offenses. Don't seem like the same thing to me.

[Stallion]

Hawaii doesn't have a TE on their roster

[chiphilton]

Mizzo has two of the best TE's in the country. They just dont line up in a traditional TE set. Out of those 7 we will be able to find a couple that can catch the ball, I bet. Ok, I know Missouri is spread and not run and shoot, but you get my drift here. Run and shoot relies more on timing and aggressive pass blocking than the spread.

[westexSMU]

[quote="Stallion"]the Run and Shoot does not utilize any TEs-they usually don't even recruit any TEs. Which is not good for 7 TEs on our roster who likely would be moved.[/quote]............Hopefully, some can play linebacker....Is McKinney still on the team ? I never understood why he was just a special team player and a reserve TE. He should have been on the field.