RB's in Jones offense?

[locostang]

I don't care if we use a running back at all. Throw it 80 times a game.

[Stallion]

This will solidify Mapps as the No. 1 RB because he has great strength in his legs and the Run and Shoot will create space which he needs to be effective. Think Texas Tech's RBs. Remember that Tech has gootten upwards of 100 catches from its SB position and its important for the SB to have the skills to make defenders miss in open space. Mapps fits the Run and Shoot pretty darn well. DeMyron not so much. Butler's role should expand over Martin-whose body is too rigid for this offense.

[mrydel]

This will solidify Mapps as the No. 1 RB because he has great strength in his legs and the Run and Shoot will create space which he needs to be effective. Think Texas Tech's RBs. Remember that Tech has gootten upwards of 100 catches from its SB position and its important for the SB to have the skills to make defenders miss in open space. Mapps fits the Run and Shoot pretty darn well. DeMyron not so much. Butler's role should expand over Martin-whose body is too rigid for this offense.

In all honesty, with Martins lack of running tough, I do not see a place for him on offense or defense. Maybe a receiver if his hands are ok and speed is sufficient.

[bigdaddy08091]

This will solidify Mapps as the No. 1 RB because he has great strength in his legs and the Run and Shoot will create space which he needs to be effective. Think Texas Tech's RBs. Remember that Tech has gootten upwards of 100 catches from its SB position and its important for the SB to have the skills to make defenders miss in open space. Mapps fits the Run and Shoot pretty darn well. DeMyron not so much. Butler's role should expand over Martin-whose body is too rigid for this offense.

That is a pretty good duo. Can they block? We will need the protection up front unless we work the no huddle and hit quick.

[westexSMU]

[quote="bigdaddy08091"][quote="westexSMU"}One other guy who has big time talent is Shankle. I'm telling you, if his knees hold up, he will be the best running back at SMU in years.[/quote]

Can't speak on someone who has not played. If he has knee problems before he has even played, count him out of the spread/run and shoot/west coast.[/quote].................Because of Shankle's knee problems in High School, Coach Bennett had said they were going to make a DB out of him when he was recruited. Yet I was at a srimmage last August and Shankle came in at RB, ran several plays, and looked like an OU RB Allen Patrick look-a-like. He also has 4.4 speed and he is as fast as anybody you will see from 0 to 10 yards with great moves. He probably would have been a 4 Star back in High School if not for the injuries to his knees.

[mrydel]

He probably would have been a 4 Star back in High School if not for the injuries to his knees.

I could be a male model today other than my looks and extra 8 inches around my waist.

[couch 'em]

[quote="westexSMU"][/quote]

Dude, westexSMU, go to your profile and make sure the options that say "Allow _________" all say 'yes' so your quotes work!

[Stallion]

if you go take a look at a Hawaii two-deep roster-their WRs are all the prototype for the traditional Run and Shoot. the Outside Receivers go 6-2, 6-2, 6-2 and 5-11. The inside receivers go 5-9, 5-10, 5-11 and 5.7. Very typical

I would say a guesstimate on the starters at Receiver would go something like this:

Outside Receiver:
Columbus Givens 6-0
Patrick Fleming: 6-4


Outside Receiver:
Bradley Haynes 6-3
Phillip Burley 6-3


Inside Receiver:
Aldrick Robinson 5-10
Jamel Kennedy: 5-10 (listed at 5-11)

Inside Receiver:
Emanuel Sanders 6-1
Jessie Henderson: 5-9(can he catch the ball-who knows since he never plays but he fits the mold)OR
Adarius Medford 5-10


It should be a relatively easy transition BUT I don't think June Jones would be entirely happy with the speed outside. I have real doubts about Burley unless he has better speed than reports after high school and his injury. Although Sanders size might push him outside to get more speed on the field he has a live body that makes him very effective inside. We will have to sign at least 4 WRs because Sanders and Givens will be Seniors and quite frankly they are the best fits for the Run and Shoot.
I see enough talent at the Receiver position to be pretty effective in the Run and Shoot in 2008 but beyond not so sure so I would think this is where recruiting would really focus.

[smupony]

if you go take a look at a Hawaii two-deep roster-their WRs are all the prototype for the traditional Run and Shoot. the Outside Receivers go 6-2, 6-2, 6-2 and 5-11. The inside receivers go 5-9, 5-10, 5-11 and 5.7. Very typical

I would say a guesstimate on the starters at Receiver would go something like this:

Outside Receiver:
Columbus Givens 6-0
Patrick Fleming: 6-4


Outside Receiver:
Bradley Haynes 6-3
Phillip Burley 6-3


Inside Receiver:
Aldrick Robinson 5-10
Jamel Kennedy: 5-10 (listed at 5-11)

Inside Receiver:
Emanuel Sanders 6-1
Jessie Henderson: 5-9(can he catch the ball-who knows since he never plays but he fits the mold)OR
Adarius Medford 5-10


It should be a relatively easy transition BUT I don't think June Jones would be entirely happy with the speed outside. I have real doubts about Burley unless he has better speed than reports after high school and his injury. Although Sanders size might push him outside to get more speed on the field he has a live body that makes him very effective inside. We will have to sign at least 4 WRs because Sanders and Givens will be Seniors and quite frankly they are the best fits for the Run and Shoot.
I see enough talent at the Receiver position to be pretty effective in the Run and Shoot in 2008 but beyond not so sure so I would think this is where recruiting would really focus.

I wouldn't count Martin out of one of the outside WR positions. We all know he runs a lot of routes and can catch the ball. Don't know if he has the speed and body control to have significant playing time. Maybe a situational play (WR screen) for some tough short yardage. Just a thought.

[CashMcMogulsonIII]

Maybe Jones can bring some big lineman with him from Hawaii. People it doesn't matter who your running back is if he doesn't have blockers he will suck. Worry about what fat boys we will bring around first.

[bigdaddy08091]

if you go take a look at a Hawaii two-deep roster-their WRs are all the prototype for the traditional Run and Shoot. the Outside Receivers go 6-2, 6-2, 6-2 and 5-11. The inside receivers go 5-9, 5-10, 5-11 and 5.7. Very typical

I would say a guesstimate on the starters at Receiver would go something like this:

Outside Receiver:
Columbus Givens 6-0
Patrick Fleming: 6-4


Outside Receiver:
Bradley Haynes 6-3
Phillip Burley 6-3


Inside Receiver:
Aldrick Robinson 5-10
Jamel Kennedy: 5-10 (listed at 5-11)

Inside Receiver:
Emanuel Sanders 6-1
Jessie Henderson: 5-9(can he catch the ball-who knows since he never plays but he fits the mold)OR
Adarius Medford 5-10


It should be a relatively easy transition BUT I don't think June Jones would be entirely happy with the speed outside. I have real doubts about Burley unless he has better speed than reports after high school and his injury. Although Sanders size might push him outside to get more speed on the field he has a live body that makes him very effective inside. We will have to sign at least 4 WRs because Sanders and Givens will be Seniors and quite frankly they are the best fits for the Run and Shoot.
I see enough talent at the Receiver position to be pretty effective in the Run and Shoot in 2008 but beyond not so sure so I would think this is where recruiting would really focus.

Givens and Robinson on the inside and Sanders and Fleming on the outside. Fleming will be the Bobby Chase ball control receiver. You can stretch the field with inside receivers putting pressure on safeties thus putting Sanders in possibel one on ones.

[Stallion]

that's possible-Givens and Sanders are kind of a tweeners in the Run and Shoot-I just believe one moves inside and one stays outside-between those two. Why do you think Sanders goes outside though when Justin's worked the middle so well with Sanders and Sanders has the ability to cut on a dime which is the quality looked for the most in Inside Receivers.

[bigdaddy08091]

that's possible-Givens and Sanders are kind of a tweeners in the Run and Shoot-I just believe one moves inside and one stays outside-between those two. Why do you think Sanders goes outside though when Justin's worked the middle so well with Sanders and Sanders has better cuttin' ability the thing looked for the most in Inside Receivers.

He stretches the field better than anybody we have. Kind of tight in the hips, but verticle, he is a threat even more. Givens and Robinson give you more shake and bake in the middle. But you know what, with JWills inability to see over linemen sometimes the bigger receivers inside might work better.

[Stallion]

hmmm I'm a Givens fan and I don't think he shakes or bakes near as well Sanders. What you talking about Willis? Cooking Class?

[bigdaddy08091]

hmmm I'm a Givens fan and I don't think he shakes or bakes near as well Sanders. What you talking about Willis? Cooking Class?

Sanders has no hips. Givens if given the chance to catch some balls will show you his speed and ability to make people miss. Sanders just runs away from people, even though players say Givens is the fastest.