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Postby h00fhearted808 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:52 am

Aloha all.

Just want to share my viewpoint with you all, obviously I only speak for myself. First of all, Congratulation! I am a huge June fan and love watching his offense (who doesn’t right?). I will have to be a bit of SMU fan now. I am excited to see what he will be able to do with a roster full of Texas size boys. You all have some VERY exciting times ahead.

Looking into my crystal ball this is how I see you all developing over the next few years. June will get a couple of very local (Dallas area) kids to really pump up the recruiting for your area. Compare this to bringing in Timmy Chang that started keeping some of our better local kids to stay close to home. If you could keep the top talent from the Dallas area, you will quickly be national threats. June can make average players into very good players and very good players into super players. I also think that you all will win at least 5 games for the 2008-2009 season. By the end of this year, your team will be confident. You will have a winning season next year (2009-2010) – NO DOUBT. I would also predict a CUSA championship within 5 years.

Why did June go? In my opinion, your University has committed to going to the next level. I believe it will, you all have everything you need. I think that you all could have gotten him for much cheaper, not that he isn’t worth the money, I just think he had all he could take from our AD and he could have been had for equivalent money. He wanted at UH what you all have there, he doesn’t seem to be about the money.

Anyway Congratulations again!
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Postby SMU2007 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:33 am

thanks for the post. i really do feel sorry that hawaii's athletic director allowed such a good coach to go. in the end, the hawaii fans are the ones who are really forced to pay for crappy decisions made by the school/athletic director.
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Postby Alaric » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:33 am

Thanks...no doubt June still has a lot of love for the fans and locals there
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Postby Alaric » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:34 am

SMU2007 wrote:thanks for the post. i really do feel sorry that hawaii's athletic director allowed such a good coach to go. in the end, the hawaii fans are the ones who are really forced to pay for crappy decisions made by the school/athletic director.


we feel for you, we had 20 years of bad decisions by our administration
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Postby OR-See-Nee » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:09 am

Thanks for the post and hope you will continue to be an SMU fan.

And to echo what others have written here, we do feel for the UH fandom. We've suffered the penalties of bad decisions for a long time.
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Postby RockStang » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:41 am

Not to defend Frazier, but it looked like his bonus structure would reward him for not spending.
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Postby CalallenStang » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:12 am

RockStang wrote:Not to defend Frazier, but it looked like his bonus structure would reward him for not spending.


I saw a report that Jones offered to take a PAY CUT to $500,000 so the university could use the other money for facilities.

Frazier turned him down.
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Postby Irse » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:20 am

CalallenStang wrote:
RockStang wrote:Not to defend Frazier, but it looked like his bonus structure would reward him for not spending.


I saw a report that Jones offered to take a PAY CUT to $500,000 so the university could use the other money for facilities.

Frazier turned him down.


Can you believe that? I'm glad he's gone. June ws right, his leaving is helping us to go forward. He exposed the severe lack of facilites and the idiotic AD we had. Now looks like they are going to spend the money and improve things and the AD is gone. Too bad JJ had to leave. Enjoy him, it'll be fun.
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:22 am

Frazier never met Copeland...or did he?
We had our own weak director (Copeland), one that was so bad, we didn't feel that our new one, Steve Orsini could make much of a difference. I would start there hire a new and strong AD and gather that fire from the alumns and get things fixed. We have had a worse situation, many of our alums split from the school, felt disinfranchised and wished to no longer have any relationship with the school after we continued to destroy Mustang football after the NCAA penalties were well over. The best thing I've heard about the hire is that a number of the major donors--the "Circle of Champions" providing the coach's salary, are donors that haven't given SMU money since we elected to destroy ourselves after the death penalty.
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Postby Irse » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:27 am

Mexmustang wrote:Frazier never met Copeland...or did he?
We had our own weak director (Copeland), one that was so bad, we didn't feel that our new one, Steve Orsini could make much of a difference. I would start there hire a new and strong AD and gather that fire from the alumns and get things fixed. We have had a worse situation, many of our alums split from the school, felt disinfranchised and wished to no longer have any relationship with the school after we continued to destroy Mustang football after the NCAA penalties were well over. The best thing I've heard about the hire is that a number of the major donors--the "Circle of Champions" providing the coach's salary, are donors that haven't given SMU money since we elected to destroy ourselves after the death penalty.


Frazier is Copeland (from Snow White)
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:34 am

One article said that Steve Orsini had never even heard of some of the donors that came forward to form the group. While Steve has only been on the job for 18 months, our Alumni and fund raising elements at SMU are very agressive and should have had these people on their radar, this is one hell of an indication that our university might really come together again. Maybe twenty years of wandering the wilderness has finally come to an end.
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Postby couch 'em » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:38 am

Mexmustang wrote:, are donors that haven't given SMU money since we elected to destroy ourselves after the death penalty.


I see why they weren't named. May be some slightly tained people. I'm ok with that.
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Postby Mexmustang » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:42 am

That is certainly not the reason. Firms and individual donors often don't want the publicity surrounding donations, especially to for a pool to pay what some people feel is an extraordinary salary. If you were head of a company and managed your employees expenses, including salaries of some of your best and brightest, this disclosure might be problematic.
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Postby Alaric » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:44 am

Mexmustang wrote:One article said that Steve Orsini had never even heard of some of the donors that came forward to form the group. While Steve has only been on the job for 18 months, our Alumni and fund raising elements at SMU are very agressive and should have had these people on their radar, this is one hell of an indication that our university might really come together again. Maybe twenty years of wandering the wilderness has finally come to an end.


Didn't the article say FORD hadn't heard of some of the other donors? The article inferred that Ford didn't want to fund the deal himself so other donors would be involved...I agree it's really encouraging to get some of these big donors back.
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Postby h00fhearted808 » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:24 pm

OR-See-Nee wrote:Thanks for the post and hope you will continue to be an SMU fan.


I am usually in the area during football season for a week or two, I will have to go to a game in person now. It will be fun.
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