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by Dutch » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:23 am
Stallion wrote:Good! Nothing better than a good ole fraudulent inducement lawsuit. Think it would be funny as hell if some university got tagged by a pissed off jury. I'm telling you to the average person this smells bad-and a jury might really hit some school. Let me see Coach No. 1 represented the university when he made that offer didn't he Mr. University President? And Not-So-Hot-Shot Recruit you relied on those promises and stopped looking at other schools didn't you. I'm telling you the NCAA needs to come in and clean this mess up.
I agree with you that some sympathetic jury could award this kid. What's unfortunate, is that he will basically ruin it for other marginal players, or single offer athletes b/c a school isn't going to take a chance on this happening to them.
Ok this is getting ridiculous...I agree with Dutch on THIS ONE POST by him totally
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by Bergermeister » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:27 am
couch 'em wrote: This probably comes from an overprotective mom in a rage because mean ol' Hawaii hurt her 'poor baby's' feelings.
You hit the nail on the head.
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by couch 'em » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:29 am
Bergermeister wrote:couch 'em wrote: This probably comes from an overprotective mom in a rage because mean ol' Hawaii hurt her 'poor baby's' feelings.
You hit the nail on the head.
Between stuff like this and the fact that Hillary Clinton went UP in the polls after her fake-crying incident, it's enough to make a man sexist.
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by OC Mustang » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:10 pm
Can an attorney keep this case a fraudulent inducement issue?
Could opposing counsel turn this on its ear?
Since it is a contract that requires a signature (signing day) to consummate the relationship, and players are a lot more apt to change their commitment than schools before signing day, what is the practical consequence of a player issuing a commitment to the school's offer, and then bailing from their own commitment?
I don't see how this gets worked out in any way except an affirmation of the term "non-binding offer", which newspapers tend to print at the end of recruiting news.
Anything else, and all of a sudden coaching changes become a serious problem, and frankly, that gets into contract law, etc. I don't think that a court is going to mess with that. Right/Wrong/Indifferent.
The NCAA might ought to wade into this, but they couldn't stop Mack Brown from pushing back recruiting (or rather, they wouldn't stop him from pushing it back). What makes you think they could clean up the rest of recruiting?
It is what it is.
"Moderation in all things, and especially in Absoluts [vodka]." The Benediction, Doc Breeden, circa 1992
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by Get_Some_Ponies » Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:55 pm
Dutch wrote:...he will basically ruin it for other marginal players, or single offer athletes b/c a school isn't going to take a chance on this happening to them.
What are they going to do, not make offers to marginal players? What if you can only get kids like that?
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by Junior » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:00 pm
Get_Some_Ponies wrote:Come on. If you accept a job offer do you generally keep interviewing in case the rescind the offer? College football is a job and at SMU they pay you $45K in benefits to do it. If you were 18 and a coach told you you were going to play for him, you wouldn't be applying to other schools.
So you're saying that kids never de-commit and change schools? Are you kidding me?
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by Junior » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:02 pm
Get_Some_Ponies wrote:Dutch wrote:...he will basically ruin it for other marginal players, or single offer athletes b/c a school isn't going to take a chance on this happening to them.
What are they going to do, not make offers to marginal players? What if you can only get kids like that?
I say DON'T make offers to marginal players. We did for years, and look what a powerhouse it made us.
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by BoazHoes » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:38 pm
Mike Caven did not honor all of Rossley's verbals.
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by Get_Some_Ponies » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:31 pm
Junior wrote:Get_Some_Ponies wrote:Dutch wrote:...he will basically ruin it for other marginal players, or single offer athletes b/c a school isn't going to take a chance on this happening to them.
What are they going to do, not make offers to marginal players? What if you can only get kids like that?
I say DON'T make offers to marginal players. We did for years, and look what a powerhouse it made us.
Again, what if at this point you can ONLY get players like that?
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by Junior » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:02 pm
Get_Some_Ponies wrote:Junior wrote:Get_Some_Ponies wrote:Dutch wrote:...he will basically ruin it for other marginal players, or single offer athletes b/c a school isn't going to take a chance on this happening to them.
What are they going to do, not make offers to marginal players? What if you can only get kids like that?
I say DON'T make offers to marginal players. We did for years, and look what a powerhouse it made us.
Again, what if at this point you can ONLY get players like that?
I don't deal in hypotheticals.
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by Get_Some_Ponies » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:23 pm
So none of our commitments are marginal guys. If that turns out to be the case, awesome! There are only so many 6'6" speedy linemen out there and when Texas, Tech and OU can scoop up 15 each it shrinks the pool. Hopefully with the new coach we'll have some success and start getting guys like that as well. Hey, best case in two years we can debate feeling sorry about guys having scholarships revoked for not being up to SMU's new level.
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