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Postby Junior » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:34 pm

We don't want an OL full of 6-0 to 6-2 guys. We need guys 6-4 and above.

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Postby PonyPower » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:31 pm

That's ridiculous. If Jones and his staff can teach these guys to replicate the blocking they got at Hawaii, it doesn't matter if they're 6-foot-2 or 4-foot-2.
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Postby Junior » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:33 pm

PonyPower wrote:That's ridiculous. If Jones and his staff can teach these guys to replicate the blocking they got at Hawaii, it doesn't matter if they're 6-foot-2 or 4-foot-2.


6-4 is ridiculous, but 4-2 isn't?
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Postby PonyPower » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:51 pm

Of course it is.
All I'm saying is that if a guy can block, he can block.
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Postby gostangs » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:15 pm

The tackles need to be 6-4 or bigger if we are going to win games. Guards need to be at least 6-2.
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Postby expony18 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:34 pm

gostangs wrote:The tackles need to be 6-4 or bigger if we are going to win games. Guards need to be at least 6-2.
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Postby Junior » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:46 pm

gostangs wrote:The tackles need to be 6-4 or bigger if we are going to win games. Guards need to be at least 6-2.


Thanks for the comment.
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Postby smu diamond m » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:14 pm

gostangs wrote:The tackles need to be 6-4 or bigger if we are going to win games. Guards need to be at least 6-2.

Good to know football is that clear cut. Dat Nguyen sucked too, right?
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Postby Junior » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:25 pm

smu diamond m wrote:
gostangs wrote:The tackles need to be 6-4 or bigger if we are going to win games. Guards need to be at least 6-2.

Good to know football is that clear cut. Dat Nguyen sucked too, right?


So having a entire team of short guys is the answer? Of course there are going to be guys that don't fit the prototypical mold that turn out to be awesome, but I can guarantee you that if you look at the starting O-lines of the top 25 teams, there will not be a single line where everyone is 6-2 and shorter. Aim high, and be happy when a few of the outliers kicks [deleted].
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Postby SMU2007 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:30 pm

PonyPower wrote:That's ridiculous. If Jones and his staff can teach these guys to replicate the blocking they got at Hawaii, it doesn't matter if they're 6-foot-2 or 4-foot-2.


ask brennan how he liked their blocking in the sugar bowl.
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Postby Garret » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:59 pm

SMU2007 wrote:
PonyPower wrote:That's ridiculous. If Jones and his staff can teach these guys to replicate the blocking they got at Hawaii, it doesn't matter if they're 6-foot-2 or 4-foot-2.


ask brennan how he liked their blocking in the sugar bowl.

So your criterion for an OL is one that can handle the team that led the SEC in sacks? How many SMU teams over the past 20 years would be satisfactory to you then?

One thing that people who take shots at Hawaii's OL in the Sugar Bowl don't realize is that Hawaii lost 3 offensive line starters to the NFL after the 2006 season (the center started the entire season at center in the NFL and both tackles were on NFL rosters the entire season). They had only 1 player on the OL start at a position that he had ever started before in college. Despite that, the OL played decently in 2007 and the team went 12-0 before facing Georgia. That was a very good season for an inexperienced OL where the tackles were playing out of position.

Size at the tackles WAS a problem for Hawaii. JJ had his biggest tackles redshirting and there will be 2 new starting tackles on the Hawaii OL in 2008 that were JJ/McKnight recruits. The starting tackles from last season will be moved to guard, where their size is more appropriate.
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Postby PonyFan » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:11 pm

Garret is exactly right. Nobody has said we should get an entire line of short guys, just that there are short guys out there who can block and be usable linemen. Plenty of them. Would it be preferable to have guys who are 6-6, 330 across the board? Probably, depending on the coaches and the blocking schemes. But to dismiss guys because they don't look like Flozell Adams is foolish, at best. It's hard to believe we're having this debate. There's nobody on our schedule with a pass rush like Georgia's, so that's a non-issue.
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Postby PonySoprano » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:57 pm

PonyFan wrote:Would it be preferable to have guys who are 6-6, 330 across the board?

Not if your QB is 5'6"
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Postby Otto » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:47 pm

All of our QBs are taller than that.
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Postby Stallion » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:58 pm

What the coaches look for and what they settle for are two different things. Almost universally, D1A Coaches are looking for 6-5+ Tackles and hopefully 6-4 (maybe 6-3) Guards. Centers size are less important-although 6-3 (6-2 is sufficient)would be nice. If you check out the Top 20 most recruited Tackles in Texas almost all are 6-5+. Teams that don't get the best-settle for less.
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