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Postby LakeHighlandsPony » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:25 am

Never could understand why Bennett tried to go outside with DeMyron and up the middle with Mapps??
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Postby perunapower » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:28 am

LakeHighlandsPony wrote:Never could understand why Bennett tried to go outside with DeMyron and up the middle with Mapps??


All his football knowledge had been forgotten by then.
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Postby mrydel » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:31 am

Do not forget the mention of McKinney at RB. He fits the mold of a JJ RB.
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Postby that's great raplh » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:13 am

dm running over people was one of my favorite things to watch
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Postby BrianTinBigD » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:53 pm

I also wondered the same about the Demyron sweep. What made him so effective a few years ago was handing him the ball and going straight ahead. No running sideways, just straight ahead power. If I wanted to run sweeps I would have gone with Mapps. I imagine that you will see a lot of Demyron this year because he has great hands and is a good pass blocker. I still think that the previous regime were clueless on how to use talent and hope they all get jobs at TCU.
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Re: 28 signees and not one running back?

Postby J.T.supporta » Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:35 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:really?


our new coach is June Jones. go to espn.com/ncf and look at how many times UH RBs ran the ball in the past 9 years.
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Re: 28 signees and not one running back?

Postby Garret » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:10 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:really?


our new coach is June Jones. go to espn.com/ncf and look at how many times UH RBs ran the ball in the past 9 years.

2006 rushing yardage:

SMU: 1503 rushing yards
Hawaii: 1651 rushing yards

2007 is the only year over the past 4 years where there was a significant difference in rushing yardage between SMU and Hawaii. The main reason for that is SMU went up significantly in rushing while Hawaii was so successful passing (plus lost their top 2 RBs and 3 OL to the NFL) that they had an unusually low rushing yardage total.

This doesn't count for the yards gained from shovel passes, which is basically a rushing play in JJ's offense, with the OL pulling and serving as lead blockers. All 4 starting WRs from Hawaii might be drafted by the NFL this year, with 3 of them already invited to the NFL combine...with that stable of WRs and rookie RBs, passing was the best option for Hawaii in 2007.

SMU's improved rushing game and a scan of the roster indicates to me that JJ didn't need to make RBs a priority this year in recruiting. With the RBs on the roster, I'd expect for SMU to have between 1100 and 1500 rushing yards this season (in a single back offense, the starting RB could be near 1000 yards himself), plus another 300 to 500 yards via shovel passes.

JJ will also probably switch players from other positions to RB, after he sees the players in Spring Practice. NFL draftee Nate Ilaoa was recruited as a slotback (then gained 60+ pounds, forcing the switch to RB), and fellow NFL draftee Reagan Mauia was a DL, etc.
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Postby Junior » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:14 pm

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Re: 28 signees and not one running back?

Postby J.T.supporta » Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:42 pm

Garret wrote:
J.T.supporta wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:really?


our new coach is June Jones. go to espn.com/ncf and look at how many times UH RBs ran the ball in the past 9 years.

2006 rushing yardage:

SMU: 1503 rushing yards
Hawaii: 1651 rushing yards

2007 is the only year over the past 4 years where there was a significant difference in rushing yardage between SMU and Hawaii. The main reason for that is SMU went up significantly in rushing while Hawaii was so successful passing (plus lost their top 2 RBs and 3 OL to the NFL) that they had an unusually low rushing yardage total.

This doesn't count for the yards gained from shovel passes, which is basically a rushing play in JJ's offense, with the OL pulling and serving as lead blockers. All 4 starting WRs from Hawaii might be drafted by the NFL this year, with 3 of them already invited to the NFL combine...with that stable of WRs and rookie RBs, passing was the best option for Hawaii in 2007.

SMU's improved rushing game and a scan of the roster indicates to me that JJ didn't need to make RBs a priority this year in recruiting. With the RBs on the roster, I'd expect for SMU to have between 1100 and 1500 rushing yards this season (in a single back offense, the starting RB could be near 1000 yards himself), plus another 300 to 500 yards via shovel passes.

JJ will also probably switch players from other positions to RB, after he sees the players in Spring Practice. NFL draftee Nate Ilaoa was recruited as a slotback (then gained 60+ pounds, forcing the switch to RB), and fellow NFL draftee Reagan Mauia was a DL, etc.


they major difference though between the two rushing attacks is number of rushes per game. the pass to run play ratio is significally high at UH. the reason for the somewhat better yards in 2006 is because of the Spread Offense.

so i expect to see a better rushing game this year even if we pass the ball alot more. high yds/carry for all the returning backs
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Re: 28 signees and not one running back?

Postby Alaric » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:18 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:
Garret wrote:
J.T.supporta wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:really?


our new coach is June Jones. go to espn.com/ncf and look at how many times UH RBs ran the ball in the past 9 years.

2006 rushing yardage:

SMU: 1503 rushing yards
Hawaii: 1651 rushing yards

2007 is the only year over the past 4 years where there was a significant difference in rushing yardage between SMU and Hawaii. The main reason for that is SMU went up significantly in rushing while Hawaii was so successful passing (plus lost their top 2 RBs and 3 OL to the NFL) that they had an unusually low rushing yardage total.

This doesn't count for the yards gained from shovel passes, which is basically a rushing play in JJ's offense, with the OL pulling and serving as lead blockers. All 4 starting WRs from Hawaii might be drafted by the NFL this year, with 3 of them already invited to the NFL combine...with that stable of WRs and rookie RBs, passing was the best option for Hawaii in 2007.

SMU's improved rushing game and a scan of the roster indicates to me that JJ didn't need to make RBs a priority this year in recruiting. With the RBs on the roster, I'd expect for SMU to have between 1100 and 1500 rushing yards this season (in a single back offense, the starting RB could be near 1000 yards himself), plus another 300 to 500 yards via shovel passes.

JJ will also probably switch players from other positions to RB, after he sees the players in Spring Practice. NFL draftee Nate Ilaoa was recruited as a slotback (then gained 60+ pounds, forcing the switch to RB), and fellow NFL draftee Reagan Mauia was a DL, etc.


they major difference though between the two rushing attacks is number of rushes per game. the pass to run play ratio is significally high at UH. the reason for the somewhat better yards in 2006 is because of the Spread Offense.

so i expect to see a better rushing game this year even if we pass the ball alot more. high yds/carry for all the returning backs


I think that was Garret's main point...
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Re: 28 signees and not one running back?

Postby J.T.supporta » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:25 pm

Alaric wrote:
J.T.supporta wrote:
Garret wrote:
J.T.supporta wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:really?


our new coach is June Jones. go to espn.com/ncf and look at how many times UH RBs ran the ball in the past 9 years.

2006 rushing yardage:

SMU: 1503 rushing yards
Hawaii: 1651 rushing yards

2007 is the only year over the past 4 years where there was a significant difference in rushing yardage between SMU and Hawaii. The main reason for that is SMU went up significantly in rushing while Hawaii was so successful passing (plus lost their top 2 RBs and 3 OL to the NFL) that they had an unusually low rushing yardage total.

This doesn't count for the yards gained from shovel passes, which is basically a rushing play in JJ's offense, with the OL pulling and serving as lead blockers. All 4 starting WRs from Hawaii might be drafted by the NFL this year, with 3 of them already invited to the NFL combine...with that stable of WRs and rookie RBs, passing was the best option for Hawaii in 2007.

SMU's improved rushing game and a scan of the roster indicates to me that JJ didn't need to make RBs a priority this year in recruiting. With the RBs on the roster, I'd expect for SMU to have between 1100 and 1500 rushing yards this season (in a single back offense, the starting RB could be near 1000 yards himself), plus another 300 to 500 yards via shovel passes.

JJ will also probably switch players from other positions to RB, after he sees the players in Spring Practice. NFL draftee Nate Ilaoa was recruited as a slotback (then gained 60+ pounds, forcing the switch to RB), and fellow NFL draftee Reagan Mauia was a DL, etc.


they major difference though between the two rushing attacks is number of rushes per game. the pass to run play ratio is significally high at UH. the reason for the somewhat better yards in 2006 is because of the Spread Offense.

so i expect to see a better rushing game this year even if we pass the ball alot more. high yds/carry for all the returning backs


I think that was Garret's main point...


well im sorry if i repeated what he said.
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Re: 28 signees and not one running back?

Postby Garret » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:25 pm

J.T.supporta wrote:
well im sorry if i repeated what he said.

At least you said it in less words than me! I have a problem with my posts being long...
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Postby Stallion » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:58 am

expect to see a rushing attack based on deception and keeping the defense off balance with delayed draws and shovel passes. We ain't going to run over anybody.
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Postby SMU_is_bowling » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:19 am

When has that ever been a problem!? :shock:
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Postby SMUFAN2006 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:38 pm

Stallion wrote:expect to see a rushing attack based on deception and keeping the defense off balance with delayed draws and shovel passes. We ain't going to run over anybody.


In that case I would think we would see a lot of maoos and not much martin
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