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UAB head coach Mike Davis on SMUModerators: PonyPride, SmooPower
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Drew has done an amazing job. Look at their recruiting since he took over. It has been nothing short of miraculous.
I agree that what happened to Baylor before Drew came in cannot be compared to our program when Doherty took over. It was a much worse situation in Waco.
But for the naysayers of the current state of the SMU program, how many years do you give Doherty to turn the program around? My guess is that it should be more than 2, which is why I am not ready to throw in the towel, but I'd like to know your opinions.
He should and will get 5 years no matter what. That doesn't mean no questions asked along the way. We should be seeing obvious and marked improvements along the way. Right now i expect to see a different caliber athlete and basketball player than we have seen in the recent past. The caliber that will someday soon get us to the NCAA tournament. With all the complaining about coaching ability during the Tubbs and Dement days, i guess i also expect a coach who wills us to victories in close games, but that is more tongue in cheek and devils advocate than anything. i just want people to be objective and fair in their assessments of where we are. Right now, i can't say i think we are on track. doh might get it on track, but it is what it is at the moment.
What Drew did was a miracle. He deserves Coach of the Year honors. Baylor was a living death penalty.
Doh is not a miracle worker. No way he planned to be this bad. He must have thought he could at least compete. But we get blown out. If he doesn't go 500 in conference play next year, people will start writing him off. He MUST have a huge turnaround next year to maintain the spark created when he was hired. He has set himself up to having to be much, much better in 08-09. Pony 81
That was a fair and objective response. Thanks. I guess since I don't have experience on PF from back in the Dement or Tubbs days, I can't compare the comments between now and then. Good to know your perspective.
Another thing, Davis was engaging in coach speak. All coaches say "nice things" about the teams they kick the s... out of.
He sees how pitiful we are and know how many pieces have to be put in place for us to stay on the court. In football, all I heard from opposing coaches was how much they respected SMU, and how hard they play, and how they are so close to turning the corner. All along hoping a change is not made so that they can keep beating our sorry a.... Pony 81
Now THAT was a far more pointed response 
there is something to that. i alluded to the 'coach speak' in one of my responses above. Davis and Doh are practically brothers after both losing their dream jobs about the same time and having competed against each other during their tenures at IU and Carolina, and now finding themselves staring up a long, tall mountain at Memphis in CUSA.
I agree that we can't afford to have any teflon coated coaches here but I'm curious what you consider to be Doh's big failings so far...he's got a good class in this years' freshman class and he's developing players. Killen has improved considerably and the freshman have come a long year since last fall. There are some really good players in Jared Dubois and company coming in next year so we're upgrading talent. Doh's shown some good and not so bench coaching - let's hope that consistently improves. The only place I can really fault him is not bringing in a legitimate point guard and for the record, I'm guessing that Mike Walker was a package deal to help get Papa Dia although Walker will be a solid backup pg in a few years but other than Papa Dia, why settle for that though when a good point guard should have been your #1 focus? I just don't see why we're getting all the anguish over this program other than the fact we're horrible this year and some of that could have been avoided with a stud pg...do you think we could be doing better than Doh?
No one knows if we could be doing better than Doh. That is impossible to know.
However, we do know: 1. SMU under Dement and Tubbs were at least competitive. Even after their first years. 2. Doh made a huge mistake not getting a PG or somebody to run the offense. A transfer, a JUCO, a high school kid. I see too many freshman PG out there that are way, way better than anything we suit up. 3. Doh made another mistake in trotting out such an inexperienced team to get slaughtered. I imagine, Doh made this calculation: 1. Coaching is a "what have you done lately business", if we stink in years 1-3, I am OK as long as we are tournament bound in years 4-5. (5 year contract assumption). 2. Number 1 leads to the conclusion to throw the talent to the wolves and get some experience early so that in years 4-5 we have a junior - senior experienced squad. Doh will get SMU to the NIT before this is over and save his job. Then maybe NCAA on the second contract. Pony 81
Good post. I totally agree that Doh was somewhat ok with big losses this year to give all these freshman a ton of experience. My only problem is his seemingly non-chalance about getting a real point guard. Nonetheless, the program is making progress and I don't think we could have done much better this season notwithstanding. We'll make the NIT the year after next.
[quote="Pony81"]2. Doh made a huge mistake not getting a PG or somebody to run the offense. A transfer, a JUCO, a high school kid. I see too many freshman PG out there that are way, way better than anything we suit up.quote]
But I thought Mike Walker was going to be a Frosh All American, thats what Patton always said.
the thing with not having a stud pg is that the stud pg has to want to come to SMU. if none of them want to come, how can doh get one. the main thing with recruiting is to get the best available talent that wants to come here. once you get those players on campus, then you have to figure a way to put it together. obviously, doh hasn't quite figured the last part out this year, but give him time.
Isn't it Doherty's job to get a solid PG to want to come here? He now has a recruiting jewel in the Crum Center and an Athletic Director who will do everything possible to help him win. His 07 recruiting class, who all the "recruiting experts" on here said was the best in many years, is getting a very low grade in year one. I sure hope his ability to evaluate and sign talent improves in the future, because the excuses are gone.
I think Doh really, really thought he was going to land Roberson. He figured he would have Killen and Walker backing up one or both of them, or he could've played Killen at the 2 alongside Roberson, with Walker backing up Roberson and Harp backing up Killen.
That would have been a completely different team.
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