USC has broken more rules!

RunPeruna · Post by **RunPeruna** » Sun May 11, 2008 12:14 pm

A new article about USC and they are compared to SMU football, not in a good way!

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/ ... ortCat=ncb

jkflamebo · Post by **jkflamebo** » Sun May 11, 2008 1:28 pm

that forde guy hates smu. i've seen him on more than one occasion bury us just like this.

smu diamond m · Post by **smu diamond m** » Sun May 11, 2008 4:20 pm

Screw Pat Forde... and USC too, socalflamebo

RushStPony · Post by **RushStPony** » Sun May 11, 2008 4:49 pm

jkflamebo wrote:that forde guy hates smu. i've seen him on more than one occasion bury us just like this.

SMU is not mainstream enough in sports for him to actually hate us. Unless he hates us for cheating, which is warranted...

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sun May 11, 2008 4:56 pm

It ain't warranted. I've had enough of that BS. Why wasn't (isn't) it warranted for the other 20+ schools who've done as we did and more?

SMU got screwed. Plain and simple. If everybody got death who deserved it, we'd have PLENTY of company!!

dcpony · Post by **dcpony** » Sun May 11, 2008 5:04 pm

I believe USC is the third or fourth most penalized athletic program in NCAA history. SMU of course is number one.

FroggieFever · Post by **FroggieFever** » Sun May 11, 2008 5:23 pm

mr. pony wrote:It ain't warranted. I've had enough of that BS. Why wasn't (isn't) it warranted for the other 20+ schools who've done as we did and more?

SMU got screwed. Plain and simple. If everybody got death who deserved it, we'd have PLENTY of company!!

Because we admitted it - and we didn't tell the NCAA to [deleted] themselves.

D1Football · Post by **D1Football** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:37 am

Article failed to mention that USC contacted the NCAA prior to Mayo enrolling to investigate his past.

ponyte · Post by **ponyte** » Mon May 12, 2008 10:36 am

The current system is unfair and unpredictable. The NCAA needs to make some changes in how it investigates and punish violators.

When a large BSC school is accused of violations, the NCAA should immediately place all Non BSC schools in a pool. A school is chosen at random (I suggest a computer do it as this will be the closes any school gets to a fair treatment by a BSC computer). Once chosen, that school will know that they will receive a fair and just punishment for the BSC schools' infractions.

The NCAA can have an honest and thorough investigation and a punishment that is fairly and equably applied can be levied on the school chosen to receive the punishment.

This way, all schools know who will be devastated by the NCAA for a BSC school's infractions. The punishment will be fair so there will be no more talk about the unfair treatment SMU received oh so many decades ago.

The BSC can continue business as usual without any interference in recruiting practices, player retention practice or severance packages practice.

The NCAA can pound its chest like Tarzan and proclaim that the organization polices and punishes all violators fairly.

The only difference between the current state of affairs and the above model is that the guess work of who gets screwed is eliminated.

DiamondM75 · Post by **DiamondM75** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:05 am

ponyte,

Absolutely friggin' hilarious. I love it.

Have you submitted this system to the NCAA? No wait, don't do it because, I am sure they will tweek the system so the the pool of nonBSC schools would work on a lottery system and since SMU has the most NCAA intraction, we would have 50% of the entries in the lottery.

ponyte · Post by **ponyte** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:12 am

DiamondM75 wrote:ponyte,

Absolutely friggin' hilarious. I love it.

Have you submitted this system to the NCAA? No wait, don't do it because, I am sure they will tweek the system so the the pool of nonBSC schools would work on a lottery system and since SMU has the most NCAA intraction, we would have 50% of the entries in the lottery.

By definition, a lottery has three components, chance, consideration and prize. For the Non BSC schools, there is no consideration (all schools are put at jeopardy) and no prize (as in a reward).

Now on the other hand, it could be a lottery for a BSC school as there is chance (getting caught), consideration (violations are considered as a risk) and prize (someone else gets the punishment).

For the above, I considered that the non BSC schools would be the principle and therefore, by definition, not subject to a lottery.

Of course this is an area of open discussion and as you so wisely pointed out, the NCAA can take a screwed up idea and make it fiendishly worse.

Fish 'n Chips · Post by **Fish 'n Chips** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:20 pm

I would think that they'd consider basketball differently than football. It would be a lot easier to rebuild a solid basketball team than would football just from the shear size of the number of players it takes. It only takes a one and done type player to really propel a program into the next tier for basketball. Or turn around a crappy team with system and coaching. I find it hard to swallow the comparison.

ShorePony · Post by **ShorePony** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:57 pm

Peruna wrote:How do you know they did that?

My understanding from the wall to wall coverage of this case here in LA, is that NCAA now investigates all high profile recruits before they enroll.

buspen · Post by **buspen** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:16 am

Does anyone know what happened to the Bush investigation, and I say that with a question. When the agent comes out and says I gave him/his family money before graduation, it seems all denials go down the toilet. Yet I have never seen any kind of sanction.