SMU gets QB commitment

[Cadillac]

Let's give the kid and JJ a chance first.

I'm giving him a chance, and I think he's a good pickup. I believe that this type of gamble is exaclty what we need to round the corner. We won't recruit with the top 25 until we start winning in the mid-majors. We have a coach that can maximize the talent we have, and some recruiters who look like they can win the head-to-head matchups against our conference rivals. Taking a flyer on a kid like Padron, who should have a great year as a starter, when nobody else is ready to, is exactly the type of gamble to build on.

-CoS

[George S. Patton]

haha Alabama and Tennessee sign a couple of 5 Star QBs a couple of 4 star QBs and maybe a high 3 star and let them fight it out then some genuis like you claims that 4 out of the 5 were busts. LSU wins a National Championships and SEC Championship with their "bust". Then they go get some more like the No. 1 QB in this years class. Not to mention the No. 1 QB picked in the NFL Draft a couple of years ago. Get it Einstein.

Sir, where did I say they were busts? Nice of you to change the form of the argument to something completely off base. Neither Stephens nor McElroy have thrown a pass in college so we don't know if they can play. I would submit that they probably can -- BUT WE DON'T KNOW!!

A point of clarification --Matt Flynn started and won the National Championship game. And is Perrilloux still playing for LSU? I would submit to you to look at his body of work to see if he really lived up to the talent. He beat an average Tennessee team that was driving late in the game to tie it.

Oh, and how is Jamarcus Russell doing for the Raiders right now?

The bottom line is this: EVERY HIGH SCHOOL PLAYER WHO IS SIGNED IS
A GAMBLE.

You don't know as much as you think you do. Your problem is you'll never admit it.

[CalallenStang]

When did McElroy begin to get noticed? If I remember right, he committed with Texas Tech towards the end of his senior season, then decommitted and committed to Bama

[ponyboy]

The bottom line is this: EVERY HIGH SCHOOL PLAYER WHO IS SIGNED IS A GAMBLE.

Understood. But generally speaking the higher the Rivals rating the better a gamble it is. There is simply no other argument. Let's see how this kid does taking over the reigns for SLC this year. He's certainly got the size you like.

[RednBlue11]

The bottom line is this: EVERY HIGH SCHOOL PLAYER WHO IS SIGNED IS A GAMBLE.

Understood. But generally speaking the higher the Rivals rating the better a gamble it is. There is simply no other argument. Let's see how this kid does taking over the reigns for SLC this year. He's certainly got the size you like.

i didn't read every page thoroughly but the danger to me is that even if we have a commitment now if he gets rated dramatically higher, all of a sudden, we will be competing with the Big 12 and SEC for his services

[Cadillac]

i didn't read every page thoroughly but the danger to me is that even if we have a commitment now if he get rated dramatically higher, all of a sudden, we will be competing with the Big 12 and SEC for his services

Right, and that's why it's worth the gamble to get the commitment before he blows up. That gives us a much better shot at getting him to SMU if he has a monster year than waiting for him to show it on the field and being just another guy with a rod-and-reel waiting to land him.

That's exactly why it's considered a gamble. If we waited until after he has a few starts, we have more information and it becomes less of a gamble, but we end up with less of an advantage to get him. And as you mention, even getting the verbal doesn't guarantee that he'll stick with it if the Big12 come knocking later. But it's better to have the verbal than to not have it.

-CoS

[George S. Patton]

i didn't read every page thoroughly but the danger to me is that even if we have a commitment now if he get rated dramatically higher, all of a sudden, we will be competing with the Big 12 and SEC for his services

Right, and that's why it's worth the gamble to get the commitment before he blows up. That gives us a much better shot at getting him to SMU if he has a monster year than waiting for him to show it on the field and being just another guy with a rod-and-reel waiting to land him.

That's exactly why it's considered a gamble. If we waited until after he has a few starts, we have more information and it becomes less of a gamble, but we end up with less of an advantage to get him. And as you mention, even getting the verbal doesn't guarantee that he'll stick with it if the Big12 come knocking later. But it's better to have the verbal than to not have it.

-CoS

I want to clarify that I have no problem with us getting this kid. I will infer from the keeper of the star's comments that he believed this was not a good recruiting move because the kid did not have USC, UT, UGA or anybody else on him. I guess from his perspective he better be a 4.9

When you get a QB from a successful system like Southlake, the odds are you are going to get a good player. Carroll players are very well coached.

We can see the results of how well Carroll players have done in DI, Scott Chandler, Mitch Enright, Aaron Luna (baseball), Chase Daniel, McKay Jacobson, etc.

[JasonB]

All I want to know is was the kid in our camp. If Morrisson and JJ saw him in person for several days, I trust their ability to evaluate the QB position.

[SMU 86]

All I want to know is was the kid in our camp. If Morrisson and JJ saw him in person for several days, I trust their ability to evaluate the QB position.

From my understanding he was at our camp and that's how we discovered him.

[Arkpony]

Perhaps JJ is paid 2 Mil because he knows more about football (and RECRUITING!) than any of us, somethign a few on here won't admit, or worse yet, don't understand.

[EastStang]

We'll see. Getting a kid from SLC is a good investment because he probably has some underclassmen friends who will get to talk to him when they get invited to visits at SMU down the road. Also, I agree with the other posters that while this is a gamble, Jones probably saw some raw tools that he could build on.

[Thumper]

Perhaps JJ is paid 2 Mil because he knows more about football (and RECRUITING!) than any of us, somethign a few on here won't admit, or worse yet, don't understand.

Amen.

It's not a matter of "raw tools," either. He might be wildly talented, but there was no way he was going to play last year. It's like if Brett Favre returns to Green Bay - doesn't matter how talented Aaron Rodgers is, Favre is going to start. Riley Dodge was Carroll's Favre, the undisputed starter, and Padron is Carroll's Rodgers.

As Arkpony said, there's a reason June Jones is making more by Valentine's Day each year than most of us will make in a year. That the man knows quarterbacks is beyond debate. Will he miss every now and then? Sure, everyone does. But for anyone on here to think we know more than he does, just because of what some dork at rivals or SuperPrep says is idiotic.

[mathman]

People seem to think this is the only QB that JJ was after. I may be wrong, but I can't help but think he is one of several that have been offered and he is just the first to commit. I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one more QB commitment before all is said and done. This commitment just might spur a few others to decide to get off the fence.

[Top 25]

I hate to burst some people's bubbles, but he was being recruited by Big XII and SEC schools.

[RednBlue11]

I hate to burst some people's bubbles, but he was being recruited by Big XII and SEC schools.

saying that in the past tense in premature