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[mrydel]

I've been checking thesesites daily at least once and sometimes twice. Eight recruits:4 3-star and 4 2-star. I was quite surprised. Stallion,you need to read the articles on recruiting in DCTF. Believe me, when you do you will have a much different view of the "list of players" in DCTF. The percentage is mush higher than your 1/3. The real experts are the HS coaches in this state. It's quite obvious from the write-ups that DCTF has interviewed many of them. The HS coaches here know more about the players than anyone else and recognize D-1 talent. Where does the information come from for all these lists come from. It doesn't all come from camps. When UH became a member of the SWC, Bill Yeoman led them to three titles. These players were mostly unrecruited by other schools. DCTF is as accurate or inaccurate as any other service. The number of offers a player has is meaningless to me. I remember when an Aggie booster talked the coaching staff into offering a boy from a six man team from Christoval. Remember Jack Pardee?

You can read them twice a day and I will repeat that Rivals never had 4 of our recruits ranked with 3 stars. Most of them have never been ranked at all. The scout site has had 4 three stars and still does with the balance at 2.

[Stallion]

Asphalt Pony-
Since you missed my previous 12,750 posts I can assure you that I have gone into excruciating detail over the last 10-12 years or so in posting facts establishing a very direct correlation between highly recruited athletes(ie offers) and winning. I think it is an irrefutable link proved over and over every single year by comparing 1) the Top 25 to the prior recruiting classes in the previous 4-5 years; 2) the much greater percentage of success for each corresponding star rating in Rivals to the top NFL Draftees and 3) the 20 year corresponding direct link between SMU's poor recruiting to SMU's abysmal record in the last 20 years. Yes, there is always going to be posters pointing to the exceptions to the rule-and that's what they are. The percentages are in favor of the highly successful programs in recruiting. Others hope for a "dream season"


I do think you are flat out wrong that the best judges of a recruits ability are high school coaches because the necessary qualities for an outstanding College player are simply different in college football than in high school football. Does an NFL team look for the same qualities that made a college player great?

[Stallion]

BTW Asphalt Pony

Texas Football rated SMU's class last in the State of Texas last year. Comments

[ponyboy]

The percentages are in favor of the highly successful programs in recruiting.

Percentage wise, recruiting's a necessary but not sufficient condition. You have to have good coaching too in order to win.

[Mexmustang]

Mack Brown is proof of that...he should never have a team ranked lower than 3rd in any year. Unless of course he has been culling the wrong 4 and 5 stars he gets to pick through.

[Stallion]

and UT is a Top 5 program winning wise Nationally over the last 6-7 years with I don't know how many 10+ winning seasons. How many schools can claim that streak? 2? 3?

[ponyboy]

Still underperforming with respect to its recruits. Coaching matters too.

[Mexmustang]

"winning wise"? is that a legal term or did you mean "whining wise"?

[Ponybacker2]

When using last years team recruiting compared to their won/loss record
does not relate since we had a different coach and most of those recruits did not even play. We did get some good players last year as time will tell.
It seems a few are not content with our recruiting based on the DMN
recruiting list. These ratings are on players who have not played their Senior season and who may not even pan out after playing their last year.
Our coaches know there is more to look at in recruits than the Rivals stars. Those stars don't show a players heart, attitude, effort, character, IQ, or desire to improve. I trust our new Coaches know how to evaluate and select players to meet the team goals much better than some of the so called recruiting experts that post on here with the sky is falling attitude. GO MUSTANGS

[SoCal_Pony]

It seems a few are not content with our recruiting based on the DMN recruiting list. These ratings are on players who have not played their Senior season and who may not even pan out after playing their last year.

Our coaches know there is more to look at in recruits than the Rivals stars. Those stars don't show a players heart, attitude, effort, character, IQ, or desire to improve. I trust our new Coaches know how to evaluate and select players to meet the team goals much better than some of the so called recruiting experts that post on here with the sky is falling attitude. GO MUSTANGS

PBacker,

What you are saying is such a common sense statement that I seriously doubt you could find even 1 poster on this board who would disagree with you.

I also think you and many others are entirely missing the point.

You see, the coaches at Baylor, TCU, UTEP, Tech, OSU, Houston, Tulsa are (for the most part) looking for the exact same traits that our coaches are…speed, quickness, size…intangibles such as heart and character as well as of course ability. It is also an indisputable fact that the coaches at these schools are extremely competent at evaluating players.

Yet somehow we are suppose to believe that all is just dandy when we sign players that NONE of the schools listed above even offered, because our coaches are such good evaluators of talent to the exclusion of all these other coaches. And I am not talking about 1 or 2 players each class, but 10+ players.

Sorry, I don’t buy it…and I have 20 years of history on my side.

The only redeeming factor here is that JJ is a proven winner and because of that, SMU will most likely improve. But if we ever aspire to consistently travel to a Lubbock or College Station with an expectation that we can win, it is imperative that we sign players other top schools want as well.

[ponyboy]

Right. You need good players to win. More good players, more winning. But Jones has shown that he can win with lowly regarded, if regarded at all, players from the islands as well as players who because of behavioral issues could not play at other schools. Also, what I object to is the drumbeat repetition of alleged recruiting mediocrity now, six months before signing day. Let's see how a Kyle Padron actually plays before declaring him a recruiting failure. The timing of this drumbeat stuff stinks as it stifles the natural excitement everyone on here ought to be feeling in anticipation of the upcoming season. It's unfortunate to put it nicely. Put the ego away, give us all a little holiday and let's all look forward to what ought to be a really fun season.

[Cadillac]

The timing of this drumbeat stuff stinks as it stifles the natural excitement everyone on here ought to be feeling in anticipation of the upcoming season.

Are you kidding me? The only way you can maintain excitement for the season is to delude yourself as to the quality of the recruiting class? Wow.

-CoS

[mathman]

This time last year, we had 2 commits. Both 2 star.

[ponyboy]

Are you kidding me? The only way you can maintain excitement for the season is to delude yourself as to the quality of the recruiting class? Wow.

Oh now that's rich. You're not excited about June Jones and what he brings to the Hilltop? That's the real wow here. I cannot believe we've allowed Eyeores such as yourself to make us forget how much fun this is going to be. Top national coach now on the Hilltop, Run and Shoot, Frank Gansz, national attention. Remember?

[ClassOf81]

I sure am, especially after reading all of the great PonyFans.com profiles of his staff. June's the headliner, but it sounds like his staff is outstanding, too. Aug. 29 can't get here soon enough.

GO MUSTANGS!