IT'S OFFICIAL: Jones takes frosh approach

[Junior]

anybody think JWill is going to transfer because of this decision?

He would be stupid not to. Tulane lost their qb to probaseball and were weak at that position. He could set for a year and still have a good playing year or two.

JWill already used his RS year, so would need to transfer to I-AA (FCS for you purists) to have 2 more seasons of eligibility. Would not be surprised to see it happen, because he's not guaranteed Jones will renew his 'ship for Senior season. "Thanks" for all you've done, Justin...but college football has become big business and my take on this is that either Jones is putting him through the ultimate character test...or his football career at SMU is over.

Former SMU QB's have fared pretty well at SHSU and Tarlteon in the past.......

Just to clarify: Sam Houston State is a Div. 1 FCS (formerly Div. 1-AA) school. Tarleton State competes at the Div. II level.

I was just making the tongue-in-cheek comment that leaving SMU can lead to an NFL career.

[MrMustang1965]

anybody think JWill is going to transfer because of this decision?

He would be stupid not to. Tulane lost their qb to probaseball and were weak at that position. He could set for a year and still have a good playing year or two.

JWill already used his RS year, so would need to transfer to I-AA (FCS for you purists) to have 2 more seasons of eligibility. Would not be surprised to see it happen, because he's not guaranteed Jones will renew his 'ship for Senior season. "Thanks" for all you've done, Justin...but college football has become big business and my take on this is that either Jones is putting him through the ultimate character test...or his football career at SMU is over.

Former SMU QB's have fared pretty well at SHSU and Tarlteon in the past.......

Just to clarify: Sam Houston State is a Div. 1 FCS (formerly Div. 1-AA) school. Tarleton State competes at the Div. II level.

I was just making the tongue-in-cheek comment that leaving SMU can lead to an NFL career.

Understood.

[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

i am so confused

Ok, Vinny Barbarino

[hawaiisashimi_smu]

A freshman QB. Two of them. True freshmen. I guess it explains why JJ didn't recruit a JC QB. Seems like those freshman QBs got game.

All I can say is how is the Oline!

Forget the QBs. They aren't anything unless we have a good Oline. Especially if we start a freshman QB. An OL with a lot of experience with pass blocking.

So how does our Oline look? Also, do we have a RB that can pass block and pickup the blitz?

I hope our Special Teams look good too. JJ got Gantz to coach ST. He is supposed to be the best ST coach in pro-football.

[kent dorfman]

A freshman QB. Two of them. True freshmen. I guess it explains why JJ didn't recruit a JC QB. Seems like those freshman QBs got game.

All I can say is how is the Oline!

Forget the QBs. They aren't anything unless we have a good Oline. Especially if we start a freshman QB. An OL with a lot of experience with pass blocking.

So how does our Oline look? Also, do we have a RB that can pass block and pickup the blitz?

I hope our Special Teams look good too. JJ got Gantz to coach ST. He is supposed to be the best ST coach in pro-football.

Oline? Well our starting RT is a converted TE who has been trying to add enough bulk for about 6 months now. Not sure how he's doing there. Good athlete though. Don't have much more info in front me.

RB's? Let's just say "pass blocking" and "picking up the blitz" were areas of concern last year. Maybe having Mckinney back there will help.

Special Teams? Probably the strength of the team with Morestead and Henderson.

Juco QBs? JJ went after Kevin Craft and couldnt land him so here we are with Bo and Braden. Not to throw stones at them but they are true freshman and that in itself is a concern.

Lots of variables, lots of changes from last year. The oline and RBs in pass protection are immensely important and based on the pass protection results from last year I'm just hoping that Dennis McKnight and Suan are simply superior teachers than the Oline coaching from last season. I chose not to have any expectations or make any prognostications because so much has changed.

[Stallion]

Based upon reports I've seen from an SMU and Hawaii perspective June Jones offered 3 JUCOs while having a commitment from Mitchell. Craft, Bower and Rausch. So if he was such a sure thing why was June looking for insurance.

[J.T.supporta]

A freshman QB. Two of them. True freshmen. I guess it explains why JJ didn't recruit a JC QB.

I think by the time JJ got here, most JC QBs were signed.

[kent dorfman]

Based upon reports I've seen from an SMU and Hawaii perspective June Jones offered 3 JUCOs while having a commitment from Mitchell. Craft, Bower and Rausch. So if he was such a sure thing why was June looking for insurance.

Good question. I havent noticed such talk getting much if any play in the numerous qb discussions of late.

[kull]

No way a recruit is guaranteed to start at QB, especially in JJ's run and shoot. You have to evaluate the players in your system first, especially this one because of the reads, timing, route options, and terminology. give me a break.

[kent dorfman]

A freshman QB. Two of them. True freshmen. I guess it explains why JJ didn't recruit a JC QB.

I think by the time JJ got here, most JC QBs were signed.

Perhaps and he got the commit from Bo before he left for SMU. Had he stayed he might not have needed to go after a JUCO QB because he already had Graunke and others at Hawaii. But then he comes here and Bo follows. So I guess he may have decided that, given his new situation, it might be a good idea to make a late run at a JUCO but couldnt get any of them because most were signed and the ones that werent signed were too close to committing elsewhere.

[ozfan]

Based upon reports I've seen from an SMU and Hawaii perspective June Jones offered 3 JUCOs while having a commitment from Mitchell. Craft, Bower and Rausch. So if he was such a sure thing why was June looking for insurance.

You have to be joking.
a. coaches are the biggest cover you [deleted] people around.
b.If one all american is good four at the ssame position are better.
c If you loose then they did not play the system right.

[kent dorfman]

Based upon reports I've seen from an SMU and Hawaii perspective June Jones offered 3 JUCOs while having a commitment from Mitchell. Craft, Bower and Rausch. So if he was such a sure thing why was June looking for insurance.

You have to be joking.
a. coaches are the biggest cover you [deleted] people around.
b.If one all american is good four at the ssame position are better.
c If you loose then they did not play the system right.

Or maybe it's possible that he wanted to avoid having to start a true freshman.

[LAPonyAir]

Its only natural that losing football over 20 years creates a tender fan base, and the depth of some of your knowledge in regards to building a program is beyond laughable.

The losing has annoyed me more than anyone can imagine. I endured four years of hearing about this joke from one of your better players in recent history on a daily basis, and I'll defer to his perspective when it comes to how any head coach makes a decision based on starters, etc.

Simply, a coach that has succeeded to the point of making well over a million dollars a year and spends more time with these young people than their parents, girlfriends, and siblings combined should and will have all authority, and rightfully, have the balls to hear the criticism if it doesnt work as planned.

Just got off the phone with the aforementioned player and he shared a great analogy for this current situation.

Bennett was like an owner of a hamburger joint. Willis became really good at taking the orders and turning it into his own turdburger, but since he was never managed or groomed to possibly one day manage the place, this turdburger took a life of its own. He was able to slap enough hidden sauces and oversized bread to make the burger seem much bigger and better than it really was, and the seven regulars really believed they were getting great value on such a big burger. The dept of Health walked in and shut Bennett's restaurant down (far later than it should have; still not sure how he got approved in the first place) and by some grace of something bigger than any of us, June Jones decided he would take Bennett's shell space, gut it, tweak all ingredients, but most importantly, rid the restaurant of the turdburger. Not the cook, just the food he prepared.

So with another menu in place, the cook was given an option to learn to make the best grilled chicken sandwich in town or take his knowledge of preparing a turd to the Ho Made Burgers at Fitzhugh and Swiss.

For all the knowledgable fans claiming Jones is making such a mistake by grooming two young cooks with an obvious interest in providing the best chicken sandwich, and therefore relegating turd cooks to third team, well, go hungry or enjoy the digestion of the turd.

For those that would like to let Jones run his own joint that has been a success at every location, we've gotten pretty crowded quickly, so take a buzzer and it will light up when your table is ready.

I'm not sure how good of food Bo Levi or Braden prepare, but its appetizing knowing they never witnessed a turdburger served.

As for Justin, whenever he's ready to get on board, I'll try his food. Until then, I'll let the new owner staff the cooks.

I'd be making a huge mistake if I didnt try to make clear one simple point...the age of the cooks have nothing to do with how good the food tastes. Its June's building, menu, he orders ingredients, and he staffs.

If you're struggling to conceptualize this very legit analogy, next time you're in McDonalds, take a look at the cook and ponder whether he's the fuel behind McDonalds success, or if the ingredients, management, and history have anything to do with it.

I don't think you could have put it any better...truest analogy ever.

[kent dorfman]

Its only natural that losing football over 20 years creates a tender fan base, and the depth of some of your knowledge in regards to building a program is beyond laughable.

The losing has annoyed me more than anyone can imagine. I endured four years of hearing about this joke from one of your better players in recent history on a daily basis, and I'll defer to his perspective when it comes to how any head coach makes a decision based on starters, etc.

Simply, a coach that has succeeded to the point of making well over a million dollars a year and spends more time with these young people than their parents, girlfriends, and siblings combined should and will have all authority, and rightfully, have the balls to hear the criticism if it doesnt work as planned.

Just got off the phone with the aforementioned player and he shared a great analogy for this current situation.

Bennett was like an owner of a hamburger joint. Willis became really good at taking the orders and turning it into his own turdburger, but since he was never managed or groomed to possibly one day manage the place, this turdburger took a life of its own. He was able to slap enough hidden sauces and oversized bread to make the burger seem much bigger and better than it really was, and the seven regulars really believed they were getting great value on such a big burger. The dept of Health walked in and shut Bennett's restaurant down (far later than it should have; still not sure how he got approved in the first place) and by some grace of something bigger than any of us, June Jones decided he would take Bennett's shell space, gut it, tweak all ingredients, but most importantly, rid the restaurant of the turdburger. Not the cook, just the food he prepared.

So with another menu in place, the cook was given an option to learn to make the best grilled chicken sandwich in town or take his knowledge of preparing a turd to the Ho Made Burgers at Fitzhugh and Swiss.

For all the knowledgable fans claiming Jones is making such a mistake by grooming two young cooks with an obvious interest in providing the best chicken sandwich, and therefore relegating turd cooks to third team, well, go hungry or enjoy the digestion of the turd.

For those that would like to let Jones run his own joint that has been a success at every location, we've gotten pretty crowded quickly, so take a buzzer and it will light up when your table is ready.

I'm not sure how good of food Bo Levi or Braden prepare, but its appetizing knowing they never witnessed a turdburger served.

As for Justin, whenever he's ready to get on board, I'll try his food. Until then, I'll let the new owner staff the cooks.

I'd be making a huge mistake if I didnt try to make clear one simple point...the age of the cooks have nothing to do with how good the food tastes. Its June's building, menu, he orders ingredients, and he staffs.

If you're struggling to conceptualize this very legit analogy, next time you're in McDonalds, take a look at the cook and ponder whether he's the fuel behind McDonalds success, or if the ingredients, management, and history have anything to do with it.

I don't think you could have put it any better...truest analogy ever.

Just want to be clear and say that all I'm saying about Bo or Braden starting is that it might not have been Plan A for JJ. I trust his eye and am confident that he will make the best decision.

[Garret]

Based upon reports I've seen from an SMU and Hawaii perspective June Jones offered 3 JUCOs while having a commitment from Mitchell. Craft, Bower and Rausch. So if he was such a sure thing why was June looking for insurance.

You need at least 2 starter-quality QBs in JJ's system--QBs get hurt and it is hard to make it through the season with just one guy. Last year Hawaii had 3 QBs that I thought were pretty good. Hawaii never won at Nevada before and won last season with Graunke as the starter. If you look at JJ's career at Hawaii, backup QBs often have been forced to start many games.