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Postby Alaric » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:12 pm

Stallion wrote:Yea that's the guy I'm talking about-the guy who set all kinds of SMU passing records as a Freshman and Sophmore-maybe if our Coaches showed more confidence in the above QBs for more than a semester or so we might get an experienced QB who might be able to use that 4 year experience to lead us to the Toilet Bowl. Go back and check the QB Catastrophe's listed above. In just about every case SMU would have been better off committing to the more experienced QB and sticking with him to develop his talent instead of leading a Cheerleader Parade for the next inexperienced Boy-Wonder.


I guarantee you JJ wants to win this year but after reviewing the body of evidence on Justin Willis including 2 years' of game film, his leadership and practice work versus the 2 new guys, he decided it's worth the risk for the long term and probably for the short term. I'm putting my money on JJ's opinion and not Stallion. I'd love to see Justin Willis work hard enough to gain the starting position back.

If Stallion's man-crush Franchione and his suck [deleted] offense were here, JW would be a great qb.
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Postby FWMustang » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:16 pm

Stallion wrote:That is a slap in the face of any intelligent analysis of the SMU QB situation.


translation: one more Head Football coach who hasn't consulted our resident barrister. Poor Stallion. All dressed up and no one asked him to the prom.
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Postby stein000012 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:22 pm

Great exchange gentleman!!

We will know who is right in about 4 weeks.

For now, I think we should all support our new quarterback.

Go Mitchell!! GO SMU...

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Postby RednBlue11 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:30 pm

Stallion wrote:Yea that's the guy I'm talking about-the guy who set all kinds of SMU passing records as a Freshman and Sophmore-maybe if our Coaches showed more confidence in the above QBs for more than a semester or so we might get an experienced QB who might be able to use that 4 year experience to lead us to the Toilet Bowl. Go back and check the QB Catastrophe's listed above. 10/11 of those kids played in their Freshman or first year from JUCO. Most were run off after about 3 semesters. That's just ridiculous. In just about every case SMU would have been better off committing to the more experienced QB and sticking with him to develop his talent instead of leading a Cheerleader Parade for the next inexperienced Boy-Wonder.


im with ya there, we need ot develop talent and make it better not just use it in a raw form even if we get an immediate result...it cant sustain
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Postby George S. Patton » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:38 pm

Maybe the thread meant this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJE-onnw2gM
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Postby RednBlue11 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:41 pm

George S. Patton wrote:Maybe the thread meant this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJE-onnw2gM



no i think you mean this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKPoHgKcqag
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Postby Stallion » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:41 pm

there's a guy out in Lubbock that's been known to run a pretty complicated offense too that actually attempts to nurture and develop QBs during their ENTIRE career. Has an annoying habit of coming up with a new 5th year QB with years of experience in his offense and going to a bowl every year. SMU can't stick with a QB more than a semester.
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Postby ponyboy » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:43 pm

Stallion wrote:Justin Willis is an established talent whose career we are throwing down the drain because we want to see how two untested, lightly recruited true freshman will do. Why because they looked good in a two week dress rehearsal during Fall Flag Football drills.


I was as shocked and disappointed as anyone on here. But I'm not ready, as you apparently are, to suggest that June Jones doesn't know what he's doing. Drumbeat naysaying has paid well at SMU for a long time. That's going to change. Gotta have faith and support your coach and team.
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Postby Stallion » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:51 pm

I know exactly what he is doing. He is goin' to clear a whole bunch of roster spots off this team. Watch it Moms and Dads. He is going to go with freshmen-and he's going to suggest that a lot of kids on this team may want to move on because they will be playing behind freshman. This isn't my first Rodeo. I've already predicted SMU will sign another Class of 25 when others were predicting 14. Never said he won't be successful. But a 6 win season this year in this pitiful conference could have capulted this program a helluva a lot quicker. I watched this scenario so many times at so many schools-and it always makes me a little sick to my stomach. A lot of these freshman haven't earned Jack-but they will play.
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Postby sphinx » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:57 pm

Stallion wrote: Just rearranging chairs on the Titanic and until we start getting some quality QBs in here I don't see this changing. At least make these kids earn the job otherwise it is really kinda silly to just flush the one proven talent down the drain. More faith and confidence should have been shown in a very productive QB who has smashed SMU passing records in only his Freshman and Sophmore seasons. If its so damn difficult to learn then more than two weeks of paddy-cake scrimmages should have been tried before relegating the Veteran to the 3rd String. That is a slap in the face of any intelligent analysis of the SMU QB situation.


Oh great. Now we get to hear you're dribble for the rest of the season about the Frosh QBs. The fact is there's an entirely new offensive scheme and Willis had a chance to excell but didn't. You play the odds, my man, and you're right that it probably won't be a productive year. But I have endured since the Death Penalty and look forward to each year assuming the best. Don't give us " I told you so" as the year goes on. We weren't suppose to have any expectations anyway, right? Get behind them and cheer till you hurl.
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Postby Treadway21 » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:02 pm

Stallion - so modest, so slighted, it must be hard being you. Maybe one day, someone that matters will consult you on these types of decisions. Until that time, I look forward to more of your entertaining posts.
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Postby BobcatJh » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:22 pm

I cannot believe some of you think making Willis the 3rd string quarterback was in any way the right decision. Willis is the best player on your team.

I will be happy to see Willis on the bench September 6th!!

The only place you guys will be bowling this year is at AMF.

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Postby Pony Soup » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:39 pm

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Postby Mexmustang » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:41 pm

I can't beleive the number of you that simply canot accept the fact that just maybe, just maybe Willis got beat out by better talent. Unless you have been charting the quarterbacks everyday, you can't judge. But, JJ has considerably more experience coaching and grading than Stallion and Co. after all he doesn't rely exclusively entirely on Rivals for his history and constant negative attitude. Well Stallion, get this there is no conpiracy, the program simply will never dance to your tune-- get with the program or get out. By your own admission you have spent more money on your subcription to Rivals than the Mustang Club or SMU in the last decade.
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Postby ozfan » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:41 pm

Stallion wrote:we've been "trading up" according to Ponyboy, the Captain & Tenniel and the rest of the Pom Pom boys with each successive QB catastrophe since Mike Romo. Flanigan<Sanders<McClown< Rock (& Roll)<Richard Bartel< Tate Wallis < Ernest & Young<Chris Phillips<Tip Eckert<Romo II<Willis<Christian Slater(now fighting for 3rd or 4th string on a D1AA team)< Opie Turner<BLT. Justin Willis is an established talent whose career we are throwing down the drain because we want to see how two untested, lightly recruited true freshman will do. Why because they looked good in a two week dress rehearsal during Fall Flag Football drills. Just rearranging chairs on the Titanic and until we start getting some quality QBs in here I don't see this changing. At least make these kids earn the job otherwise it is really kinda silly to just flush the one proven talent down the drain. More faith and confidence should have been shown in a very productive QB who has smashed SMU passing records in only his Freshman and Sophmore seasons. If its so damn difficult to learn then more than two weeks of paddy-cake scrimmages should have been tried before relegating the Veteran to the 3rd String. That is a slap in the face of any intelligent analysis of the SMU QB situation.


Agree with you Stallion. Keeping in mind that if JW had not had happy feet last year some of the close games would not have been as close. I think the kid is now gun shy as he has had to run for his life so much. But at least see how he can handle the team with the new system the coach should appear to be showing some loyalty. Besides if jj has not delivered a BCS bowl win in 5 years. SMU can start the search over.
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