Lay off Bo Levi

chillinfool · Post by **chillinfool** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:32 pm

Hoop Fan made a very good point. If JJ ever puts JWill in a game, and JW just happens to have success, JJ would have to answer to a lot of critics why he hasn't played JW before, and JJ's ego won't let him do that, thus JW's days as a QB at SMU are over.

PoconoPony · Post by **PoconoPony** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:19 pm

We brought in a big time coach who is getting paid big bucks to make decisions. Our job is to let him make those decisions based on his experience and judgment. Our job is to quit second guessing everything, be supportive and be patient. Yes, we were all hoping for a duplication of his initial success at Hawaii; however, it is not going to happen in this program at this time. It may take as many as 4 years before we are truly competitive. We finally have the support of the President, administration, AD plus a goal and vision/game plan and only time will afford us the opportunity to gain the strength, maturity, experience, leadership and recruiting necessary to make the strides we all seek. Relax and be patient it will happen.

OC Mustang · Post by **OC Mustang** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:50 pm

PoconoPony wrote:We brought in a big time coach who is getting paid big bucks to make decisions. Our job is to let him make those decisions based on his experience and judgment. Our job is to quit second guessing everything, be supportive and be patient. Yes, we were all hoping for a duplication of his initial success at Hawaii; however, it is not going to happen in this program at this time. It may take as many as 4 years before we are truly competitive. We finally have the support of the President, administration, AD plus a goal and vision/game plan and only time will afford us the opportunity to gain the strength, maturity, experience, leadership and recruiting necessary to make the strides we all seek. Relax and be patient it will happen.

You are kidding, right? Our job is to quit second-guessing everything, yadda yadda yadda badda bing.... This is a fan forum, dude. C'mon, you know that we are pathological. What would we talk about?

Seriously, though, that's a tough sell. Some criticisms can be calmly levelled at Jones, and they ought to be because he's being paid $2mm per year to coach. (I concede that my argument loses ground since I'm not the guy paying the coin to him....). I stick with my comments earlier. It's premature to burn him in effigy. However, that said, I am not going to be patient to the tune of not expecting significant improvement (i.e. a winning season and bowl game) this year. In CUSA, notwithstanding the recent success of Tulsa and ECU, it is possible for SMU to at least make a run at it. If that's armchair QB-ing, then that's just tough. Coach Jones is a big boy; he can handle the criticism.

And it's complete bullsh-t to suggest we have to wait 4 years for major improvement. He's got a five year contract, and he's made it clear that he's done after that, right?. Screw 4 years, dude. My patience is at an end.

HB Pony Dad · Post by **HB Pony Dad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:15 pm

PoconoPony wrote: Our job... Our job...

Nobody is paying me!

Until somebody starts to "Pony Up" I'll keep expressing my opinions about our "Deer in the Headlights" and his mentor!

Buckethead · Post by **Buckethead** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:47 pm

I am not sure that it matters who plays QB. I would like to know when we are going to find 11 guys that can tackle? Do we have any defensive players that are tall enough to ride the rides at Six Flags?

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:29 pm

PoconoPony wrote:Relax and be patient it will happen.

Hawaii fans didn't have to relax and be patient. Winless to 9-4 and a bowl game win....and JJ has said many times that he has more talent at the skill positions here than he did during his first year in Hawaii.

Don't tell us to be patient......I've been patient for 22 years in football and 17 years in basketball. The being patient days are over.

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:08 pm

It's well known that Hawaii lost badly to USC in 1999. But they also lost to Rice, Washington State, and TCU early. There's still time.

And, yes, he has more talent at the skill positions here at SMU. But he had much better linemen there to start with.

HB Pony Dad · Post by **HB Pony Dad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:13 pm

ponyboy wrote:There's still time.

For...... ?

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:14 pm

A season that pleases the critics and whiners on this board. Or at least shuts them up temporarily.

HB Pony Dad · Post by **HB Pony Dad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:17 pm

ponyboy wrote:A season that pleases the critics and whiners on this board. Or at least shuts them up temporarily.

Which is = ?

and /or

> ?

and/or

< ?

:?:

OC Mustang · Post by **OC Mustang** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:19 pm

ponyboy wrote:A season that pleases the critics and whiners on this board. Or at least shuts them up temporarily.

Dammit. You've been on the board only a month longer than me, and you're already at Hall of Famer.

There's got to be a handicap for time on board. C'mon webguys, show me a little love, will you? I feel like a teenager for having less posts than some guys (General, are you listening??) who are on for a couple of years, post the hell out of stuff, and get better status.

I don't b-tch and moan much about this kind of stuff, but c'mon ppride...smoo...webmaster...help a fellow oldtimer out, would you? Please? I feel like Cartman.

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:22 pm

HB Pony Dad wrote:
ponyboy wrote:A season that pleases the critics and whiners on this board. Or at least shuts them up temporarily.

Which is = ?

and /or

> ?

and/or

< ?

I think people want legitimate signs of progress. Which is fair, of course. But it's way early.

ponyboy · Post by **ponyboy** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:23 pm

OC Mustang wrote:
ponyboy wrote:A season that pleases the critics and whiners on this board. Or at least shuts them up temporarily.

Dammit. You've been on the board only a month longer than me, and you're already at Hall of Famer.

There's got to be a handicap for time on board. C'mon webguys, show me a little love, will you? I feel like a teenager for having less posts than some guys (General, are you listening??) who are on for a couple of years, post the hell out of stuff, and get better status.

I don't b-tch and moan much about this kind of stuff, but c'mon ppride...smoo...webmaster...help a fellow oldtimer out, would you? Please? I feel like Cartman.

It's all about quality over quantity, OC.

HB Pony Dad · Post by **HB Pony Dad** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:25 pm

OC Mustang wrote:There's got to be a handicap for time on board. C'mon webguys, show me a little love, will you? I feel like a teenager for having less posts than some guys (General, are you listening??) who are on for a couple of years, post the hell out of stuff, and get better status.

Even I'm gaining on you...

Should have stayed in socal...

Dang they're fast!!!!

OC Mustang · Post by **OC Mustang** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:30 pm

ponyboy wrote:
OC Mustang wrote:
ponyboy wrote:A season that pleases the critics and whiners on this board. Or at least shuts them up temporarily.

Dammit. You've been on the board only a month longer than me, and you're already at Hall of Famer.

There's got to be a handicap for time on board. C'mon webguys, show me a little love, will you? I feel like a teenager for having less posts than some guys (General, are you listening??) who are on for a couple of years, post the hell out of stuff, and get better status.

I don't b-tch and moan much about this kind of stuff, but c'mon ppride...smoo...webmaster...help a fellow oldtimer out, would you? Please? I feel like Cartman.

It's all about quality over quantity, OC.

I still don't feel better about it. Thx, though.