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Postby J.T.supporta » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:21 am

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Sunshine wrote:This is a perfect example of why SMU is not winning. Because of opinions from pony fools. People sitting around bad mouthing young people. How uplifting this board is. Good Bye.

:roll:

You had me on the dropped passes rant until you threw this in. But yeah, armchair coaches are exactly why this program is not successful.


yea dude, if people on ponyfans just start being more positive our defense will stop sucking and our offense will stop turning the ball over. it's that easy! who needs a $2mil a year coach?


not all of us on PFs...!!!
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Postby kent dorfman » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:30 am

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Sunshine wrote:This is a perfect example of why SMU is not winning. Because of opinions from pony fools. People sitting around bad mouthing young people. How uplifting this board is. Good Bye.

:roll:

You had me on the dropped passes rant until you threw this in. But yeah, armchair coaches are exactly why this program is not successful.


Dropped passes hurt. So does not having corners who can't cover a 6' 8" WR. We have seen a lot of things this season that are apparently obvious but the one thing that is apparent is that our problem is talent. We do not have enough players who are talented enough to play their position well at this level.

Word on the street is that JJ is offering more scholarships than he has available. No worries this guys is going to get us the talent. I have not seen one player he has recruited and has played this season that I have thought is a liability out there (put a sock in it BLM haters, Bo has and is getting better each week, save for the Navy game, and it's a shame he's injured because the more I see him hit wide open receivers who can walk into the endzone the more I think that JJ knows exactly what he is doing).

My impressions of this 1-9 team are that coaching is not the problem. Moan and groan all you want about that 4th down in the 4th quarter today. I really don't care about that call. I am 0% worried about that.

I don't really see much "bashing of young people" on this board. It's more like people are stating the obvious: these "young people" simply do not have the talent to play at this level.
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Postby jason54858 » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:20 am

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Stallion wrote:Bradley Haynes looked awful too.


in true Mustang fashion, had a crucial drop on what would have been a first down.


Yeah, I'm sure that cost the game.
If Haynes looked awful, what did the other receivers look like? They also dropped passes. They drop passes in the pros. How many passes have you had the opportunity to drop in a game? I saw a drop from almost every receiver on the field today. The list goes on and on.... Memphis' #89 (Singleton) had a drop, but guess what? They won.

Who made the other crucial drops in the other eight losses that Haynes didn't play in.

This is a perfect example of why SMU is not winning. Because of opinions from pony fools. People sitting around bad mouthing young people. How uplifting this board is. Good Bye.


How about people having personal relationships with players stop posting on the board. Maybe will help the team win more games
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Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:53 am

Note to sunshine-somehow JJ seems to think that we need to have someone MAKE a PLAY. I tend to agree.

I don't bash young people. I make observations. Remember Columbus Givens? Fine young man. Overcame a lot. Beat out Emmanuel Sanders to get pt as a true freshman while Sanders redshirted. And you know what defined his career? Ask anyone on the board and they'll tell you.

As many others have said, I have no problem with your passion for a particular player. But don't let that passion be blinded with a pollyannish outlook. And tell us you'll still be around when your familia isn't. I attended my first SMU game vs NTSU in the early 80s. How bout you?

You people think this crap is limited to SMU. After our non-factor of a football game, later Saturday night I must've had 50 phone calls, text messages, emails, whatever [deleted] about LSU QB Lee and his poor decision making in overtime. Neither I, nor probably 90000 people at that game said "that's what's wrong with LSU! Getting onto young people!"
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Postby Sunshine » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:44 am

[quote="RGV Pony"]Note to sunshine-somehow JJ seems to think that we need to have someone MAKE a PLAY. I tend to agree.

I don't bash young people. I make observations. Remember Columbus Givens? Fine young man. Overcame a lot. Beat out Emmanuel Sanders to get pt as a true freshman while Sanders redshirted. And you know what defined his career? Ask anyone on the board and they'll tell you.

As many others have said, I have no problem with your passion for a particular player. But don't let that passion be blinded with a pollyannish outlook. And tell us you'll still be around when your familia isn't. I attended my first SMU game vs NTSU in the early 80s. How bout you?

You people think this crap is limited to SMU. After our non-factor of a football game, later Saturday night I must've had 50 phone calls, text messages, emails, whatever [deleted] about LSU QB Lee and his poor decision making in overtime. Neither I, nor probably 90000 people at that game said "that's what's wrong with LSU! Getting onto young people!"[/quote]

For your information, I am not a relative of Haynes. True, I have followed the kid, and he has a bright future at SMU. I do agree with one thing you said. Yes SMU needs SOMEONE to make a play. We need good talent, good coaches, good fans, good majors, facilities, etc. My point is one dropped pass observation and stating a player played awful becasue of it accomplishes nothing after 20 years of anguish since the death penalty. A good team can overcome a dropped pass. Perfection is a goal, not reality. We live in a cynical world...
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Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:49 am

in case you didn't catch it-I was being ironic-I've thought Haynes should have played all season. I figured it would fly over the heads of many so I changed it two minutes later but someone caught the quote and ran with it. If you notice I changed it to "it only took 4 injuries to get Haynes on the field". Of course, Haynes should be playing-we've played a lot of kids this year who never earned jack but were simply given a role because June Jones recruited them.
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Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:49 am

Sunshine wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:Note to sunshine-somehow JJ seems to think that we need to have someone MAKE a PLAY. I tend to agree.

I don't bash young people. I make observations. Remember Columbus Givens? Fine young man. Overcame a lot. Beat out Emmanuel Sanders to get pt as a true freshman while Sanders redshirted. And you know what defined his career? Ask anyone on the board and they'll tell you.

As many others have said, I have no problem with your passion for a particular player. But don't let that passion be blinded with a pollyannish outlook. And tell us you'll still be around when your familia isn't. I attended my first SMU game vs NTSU in the early 80s. How bout you?

You people think this crap is limited to SMU. After our non-factor of a football game, later Saturday night I must've had 50 phone calls, text messages, emails, whatever [deleted] about LSU QB Lee and his poor decision making in overtime. Neither I, nor probably 90000 people at that game said "that's what's wrong with LSU! Getting onto young people!"


For your information, I am not a relative of Haynes. True, I have followed the kid, and he has a bright future at SMU. I do agree with one thing you said. Yes SMU needs SOMEONE to make a play. We need good talent, good coaches, good fans, good majors, facilities, etc. My point is one dropped pass observation and stating a player played awful becasue of it accomplishes nothing after 20 years of anguish since the death penalty. A good team can overcome a dropped pass. Perfection is a goal, not reality. We live in a cynical world...


kindly point out where I said the "player played awful."

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Oh, and I'll be in El Paso next Saturday. You?
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Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:52 am

See my post above about the awful comment which was misinterpreted.
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Postby RGV Pony » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:54 am

Stallion wrote:See my post above about the awful comment which was misinterpreted.


guess I'm off the hook then.

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Postby PerunaPunch » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:08 am

Stallion wrote:in case you didn't catch it-I was being ironic-I've thought Haynes should have played all season. I figured it would fly over the heads of many so I changed it two minutes later but someone caught the quote and ran with it. If you notice I changed it to "it only took 4 injuries to get Haynes on the field". Of course, Haynes should be playing-we've played a lot of kids this year who never earned jack but were simply given a role because June Jones recruited them.


The problem with Haynes is that he hasn't been getting it right in practice. He's doing well now, so he's getting playing time. Now that he's looking good in practice, guess what, he's looking good on the field too.

You're right in that Haynes has the talent to have played all season, but you're wrong in believing that he was ready.
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Postby Stallion » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:19 am

that may be true but SMU will never win- ever -with Teddy 2A, Billy All-District, Johny All-SPC and Jimmy from HP. Teddy, Billy, Johny and Jimmy will make a couple of neat-o plays by running nifty routes and guess what 4 years from now SMU will still suck. I prefer losing with the best athletes on the team . It is ridiculous that Haynes makes some great plays in the Rice game and then never sees the field again until 4 injuries force Jones to play him.
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Postby Sunshine » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:27 am

[quote="Stallion"]in case you didn't catch it-I was being ironic-I've thought Haynes should have played all season. I figured it would fly over the heads of many so I changed it two minutes later but someone caught the quote and ran with it. If you notice I changed it to "it only took 4 injuries to get Haynes on the field". Of course, Haynes should be playing-we've played a lot of kids this year who never earned jack but were simply given a role because June Jones recruited them.[/quote]

Point taken, I did miss that!
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Postby PonySnob » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:13 pm

Stallion wrote:that may be true but SMU will never win- ever -with Teddy 2A, Billy All-District, Johny All-SPC and Jimmy from HP. Those guys will make a couple of neat-o plays by running nifty routes and guess what 4 years from now SMU will still suck. I prefer losing with the best athletes on the team . It is ridiculous that Haynes makes some great plays in the Rice game and then never sees the field again until 4 injuries force Jones to play him.


Why can't we adopt the TCU model for a football program?
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