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Postby LA_Mustang » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:22 am

I love it. Whitlock is great........

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8779 ... e,-Charlie
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Re: Weis - The Fraud

Postby HB Pony Dad » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:16 am

LA_Mustang wrote:I love it. Whitlock is great........

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8779 ... e,-Charlie


Charlie Weis is the devil...

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Re: Weis - The Fraud

Postby One Trick Pony » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:58 am

LA_Mustang wrote:I love it. Whitlock is great........

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8779 ... e,-Charlie


It is very brave and quite magnanimous for The Great Weis Hope to throw his offensive coordinator Ummmmm i'm calling the R card!!
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Postby George S. Patton » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:40 am

Funny, how in Weis' first two years the media and fans were calling him a genius and that he could do no wrong.

Well, after the 3-9 season last year and the average season this is turning out to be, they're not saying that anymore are they?

Goes to show that it isn't about Xs and Os. It's about Jimmys and Joes. When you have good ones and they execute your stuff, you look pretty smart. When you don't, not so much.

So for all of you blasting June Jones WHEN WE KNEW MOST OF THE TALENT HERE WAS HORSE HOCKEY, I'd like to see how he will be viewed should he get the players that he wants to run his system.

Fickle fans. Fickle fans.
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Postby jkflamebo » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:05 am

he was riding the coat tails of willingham when he inherited his talent too. since quinn and samardjia left, notre dame had done zip
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Postby 03Mustang » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:40 am

Pear Bryant = greatest nickname ever
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Postby LA_Mustang » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:56 am

George S. Patton wrote:So for all of you blasting June Jones WHEN WE KNEW MOST OF THE TALENT HERE WAS HORSE HOCKEY, I'd like to see how he will be viewed should he get the players that he wants to run his system.

Fickle fans. Fickle fans.

I get your point.......but again, how can you call SMU fans fickle? We've experienced zero success in 20+ years. I don't think it is unrealistic for fans to expect at least one win over a D1-A team in JJ's first year. Last year we lost 5 conference games by less than a TD (3 in OT) and everyone blamed Bennett's coaching ability....now we've lost several close games and we were blown out by a one-dimensional team using their 3rd string QB and everyone's saying it is the players. So which is it?
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Postby George S. Patton » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:08 am

LA_Mustang wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:So for all of you blasting June Jones WHEN WE KNEW MOST OF THE TALENT HERE WAS HORSE HOCKEY, I'd like to see how he will be viewed should he get the players that he wants to run his system.

Fickle fans. Fickle fans.

I get your point.......but again, how can you call SMU fans fickle? We've experienced zero success in 20+ years. I don't think it is unrealistic for fans to expect at least one win over a D1-A team in JJ's first year. Last year we lost 5 conference games by less than a TD (3 in OT) and everyone blamed Bennett's coaching ability....now we've lost several close games and we were blown out by a one-dimensional team using their 3rd string QB and everyone's saying it is the players. So which is it?


How did Michigan go from being a 9-4 team and beating a Heisman Trophy winner in a bowl game last year to being 3-7 this year?
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Postby Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:42 am

George S. Patton wrote:How did Michigan go from being a 9-4 team and beating a Heisman Trophy winner in a bowl game last year to being 3-7 this year?


Well, at least one thing improved...they didn't lose to a D-IAA team this year. :lol:
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Postby LA_Mustang » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:45 am

George S. Patton wrote:How did Michigan go from being a 9-4 team and beating a Heisman Trophy winner in a bowl game last year to being 3-7 this year?

Michigan had 7 players drafted, including the #1 pick overall in the draft, OT Jake Long. They lost their starting QB (transferred to Ark), their starting RB to the NFL, and their two top WRs to the NFL.
SMU had no players drafted, their starting QB is still on the roster (benched) and their leading RB and WRs all returned.
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Postby George S. Patton » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:07 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:How did Michigan go from being a 9-4 team and beating a Heisman Trophy winner in a bowl game last year to being 3-7 this year?

Michigan had 7 players drafted, including the #1 pick overall in the draft, OT Jake Long. They lost their starting QB (transferred to Ark), their starting RB to the NFL, and their two top WRs to the NFL.
SMU had no players drafted, their starting QB is still on the roster (benched) and their leading RB and WRs all returned.


Indeed. The roster changed. The graduation of bad players was followed by another year of bad players.

I used the Michigan example only to discuss how the roster changed and the remaining players are having trouble with the new schemes and the freshmen are making little to no impact -- at this point.
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Postby Stallion » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:21 pm

there is more to running a college football program than calling some neat-o plays in a Coaches first season. Eventually, even great the "great ball coach" will lose if he can't excell at the other important phases of running a football program or if the university is not providing all the "support" his competitors are receiving.
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Postby George S. Patton » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:36 pm

Amen. It's about everybody in the university beyond the athletic department wanting the same things for the program. If you don't have that, your chances of success are not good.
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