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jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:25 pm

Well then, maybe you are right and we should just quit once Jones fails. Gerald Ford's gonna be pissed he dropped all that green on a football stadium, but we'll have the nicest soccer field in America.

StallionsModelT · Post by **StallionsModelT** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:29 pm

Predicting that Jones will fail is saying that he won't accomplish what he's done at every place he's been. I'm certainly not ready to give up on this program b/c of a team of damn near all freshmen had a bad record.

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:39 pm

Nobody has predicted that, it's a "what-if" scenario. Next time you need to read back through the entire thread for context sh!t-with-shoes.

StallionsModelT · Post by **StallionsModelT** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:41 pm

Still on your period I see. Must be stress. I never said you did. Take a midol and have a nap for crying out lout.

Warbow · Post by **Warbow** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:13 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:Predicting that Jones will fail is saying that he won't accomplish what he's done at every place he's been. I'm certainly not ready to give up on this program b/c of a team of damn near all freshmen had a bad record.

What? You better go back and check his lifetime record in the pros. Besides, do you realize it took him 9 years to get into the sugar bowl?

Warbow · Post by **Warbow** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:16 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:
ponyte wrote:Unlike Caven's massive suspensions before the TCU game which may have cost us a bowl, this is a relatively low risk move.

The suspension may not affect the results, but it will give some kids a lot more playing time. We are in future build mode and the more kids that get significant experience the better.

Also, the kids have seen what happens to suspended players (Willis) and there may be more surprises to come from these suspensions.

Glad Junes is imposing his program and expectation and not allowing the kids to push him around. It will pay dividends down the road.

Ponyte,

He is on a 5-year leash.

Year 1 - disaster
Year 2 - we can always hope for a 3 or 4 win season
Year 3 - I don't think the current talent on this team with the class he is bringing in makes us a .500 team
Year 4 - ????....but Stalllion says our recruiting class is C-USA "average"
Year 5- ALL IN!!!
Year 6 - back to Hawaii

Yikes, you keep him. We'll take him back as an offensive coordinator.

ALEX LIFESON · Post by **ALEX LIFESON** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:27 pm

Warbow wrote:
StallionsModelT wrote:Predicting that Jones will fail is saying that he won't accomplish what he's done at every place he's been. I'm certainly not ready to give up on this program b/c of a team of damn near all freshmen had a bad record.

What? You better go back and check his lifetime record in the pros. Besides, do you realize it took him 9 years to get into the sugar bowl?

And how did you like the 18 game losing streak, before June got there?

larskjenstad · Post by **larskjenstad** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:14 am

couch 'em wrote:
jtstang wrote:We'd have the nicest D-2 stadium in the land and all of the best D-2 quality players would want to come to SMU. We'd be instantly good again.

Being the winner of the "Over 35% Body Fat" spring competition is not a real award!

AND, once we drop down, the administration will deceide to half-[deleted] that too, so we'll just be bad DII team.

DONT PANIC...THESE KIDS WILL STEP UP, HEG
CK GIVE THRM TIME.

SMUfiji43 · Post by **SMUfiji43** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:07 am

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... &type=lgns

As if we couldn't get any worse. I don't understand this. If he continues to pull shenanigans like this we better see results. This is bull and seems to me like he hit the panic button a little bit. I was going to go to the Thanksgiving weekend game since I'll be in town, but I figure it will be a waste of time with our 2 most exciting players and our best defensive player out.

03Mustang · Post by **03Mustang** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:15 am

SMUfiji43 wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-smususpensions&prov=ap&type=lgns

As if we couldn't get any worse. I don't understand this. If he continues to pull shenanigans like this we better see results. This is bull and seems to me like he hit the panic button a little bit. I was going to go to the Thanksgiving weekend game since I'll be in town, but I figure it will be a waste of time with our 2 most exciting players and our best defensive player out.

I don't see how you can call applying discipline "shenanigans". It's disappointing to have 3 of the 4 best players on the team (Morstead is the other IMO) suspended for the last game, but I'm sure this is valid - football coaches aren't in the business of just suspending kids for no reason.

Honestly, there's a good chance they probably deserved it sooner and JJ just held off on pulling the trigger until we were obviously completely cooked.

FWMustangGirl · Post by **FWMustangGirl** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:50 am

03Mustang wrote:
SMUfiji43 wrote:http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-smususpensions&prov=ap&type=lgns

As if we couldn't get any worse. I don't understand this. If he continues to pull shenanigans like this we better see results. This is bull and seems to me like he hit the panic button a little bit. I was going to go to the Thanksgiving weekend game since I'll be in town, but I figure it will be a waste of time with our 2 most exciting players and our best defensive player out.

I don't see how you can call applying discipline "shenanigans". It's disappointing to have 3 of the 4 best players on the team (Morstead is the other IMO) suspended for the last game, but I'm sure this is valid - football coaches aren't in the business of just suspending kids for no reason.

Honestly, there's a good chance they probably deserved it sooner and JJ just held off on pulling the trigger until we were obviously completely cooked.

I fear for the future if those of you who think Jones shouldn't have handed down suspensions according to the rules have kids. Discipline. Consistency. He is trying to teach these young men responsibility and accountability while they build this team. If you have kids, you should understand that you don't change the rules because it will inconvenience you.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:16 am

I especially love those that distinguish between discipline of "star" players or perhaps overlooking violations before the "big game". Either you run the program with stated rules or you sacrifice discipline. Especially important in the first year of a program. Now we can debate whether early morning practice or excessive time spent on athletic training is beneficial to the "student athlete" but that is another debate. June Jones was hired to run his program under NCAA rules.

Cadillac · Post by **Cadillac** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:08 pm

[quote="June Jones"]├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├àΓÇ£We have had over 17 players suspended at one time or another this season,├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:10 pm

according to a report on Scout today there have been 17 suspensions this year.

http://smu.scout.com/2/811364.html

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