I don't think 5 years is long enough

[Treadway21]

Rutgers 49
S FL 16 F

[kent dorfman]

Rutgers 49
S FL 16 F

Looking solid today! That's where we need to be!

[White Helmet]

they are still only 5-5 not exactly world beaters.

[kent dorfman]

they are still only 5-5 not exactly world beaters.

5-5 is looking pretty rock solid compared to where we are now. They win one more game and they are BOWL ELIGIBLE and have a WINNING RECORD. ROCK SOLID does not necessarily = "world beaters".

[White Helmet]

Yeah I am sure all the people who paid for that huge stadium expansion are just crapping roses for going about .500 every year.

[kent dorfman]

Yeah I am sure all the people who paid for that huge stadium expansion are just crapping roses for going about .500 every year.

Weren't we just "crapping the roses" a couple years ago when we almost got to a bowl game? Schiano got his team into the top ten. It's not reasonable to expect this program to be top 10 or world beaters or whatever you call them year in and year out. Every program is going to have up and down years. But if we reach the point where a 6-5 season is considered a down year for us then I think things have turned around. It's not that we want to be 6-5 every year, it's simply that we want expectations and standards for our team to raise.

[White Helmet]

Im saying that Rutgers has not had sustained success, is 7-5 really a down year for them or is that is what they are going to be consistantly?
2005 7-5
2006 11-2 and climbed as you said into the Top 10
2007 8-5 only (3-4) in conference
2008 5-5 Currently, could finish 7-6 or 8-5, should beat Army and probably Louisville.
They have not sustained the high standards of 2006, in a weak BCS conference, as a state school in a state that produces some pretty decent football players

[kent dorfman]

Im saying that Rutgers has not had sustained success, is 7-5 really a down year for them or is that is what they are going to be consistantly?
2005 7-5
2006 11-2 and climbed as you said into the Top 10
2007 8-5 only (3-4) in conference
2008 5-5 Currently, could finish 7-6 or 8-5, should beat Army and probably Louisville.
They have not sustained the high standards of 2006, in a weak BCS conference, as a state school in a state that produces some pretty decent football players

Well I suppose it depends on how you define success. It looks like they have been consistently respectable, with 2006 as their highwater mark. Their goal would be to get back their I guess but as long as they don't pull 2 consecutive 1-11 seasons ie "bottoming out" then they're okay. I do not think it is realistic for most BCS programs to sustain top 10 status but as long as they are staying in the fight, they can catch a few breaks and get back there.

Before Shiano Rutgers was a laughing stock. Now they are a respectable college football program playing at a level SMU would die to play at. Stop criticizing them for not becoming the next LSU.

[White Helmet]

They are where we want to be, but they have more advantages, we should use a better model.

[White Helmet]

How about when Fran took over at TCU? That has "stayed built"

[mrydel]

How about when Fran took over at TCU? That has "stayed built"

How about Bo Derek? Cheryl Tiegs? They have "stayed built".

[White Helmet]

Ahh the original slow motion bouncing, I mean running scene.