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Postby mrydel » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:28 pm

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There was a deaf/dumb (mute) player a few years ago that I believe was an All American defensive lineman. At least was very good. You can play and be good without spending your off season on the lecture circuit.


from Crane, Texas as I recall. If it's the same guy, I think he also played for the Broncos in the NFL.


That's right. I was thinking I saw him on a college special report, but it was an NFL special report they did on him with the Broncos.
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Postby kent dorfman » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:30 pm

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There was a deaf/dumb (mute) player a few years ago that I believe was an All American defensive lineman. At least was very good. You can play and be good without spending your off season on the lecture circuit.


from Crane, Texas as I recall. If it's the same guy, I think he also played for the Broncos in the NFL.


No one has to be a great orator to play team sports they just need to be able to understand what it is they are doing. If not being able to talk to people very well gets in the way of that then you need to find a way.
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Postby White Helmet » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:30 pm

If I spent much time in Crane I wouldn't talk much either. That place is boring, outside of the Dugout Video Store there is not a lot going on in that town. You could also go over to McKamey and eat at Benoit's with all the wildcatters,good food too.
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Postby mrydel » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:32 pm

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There was a deaf/dumb (mute) player a few years ago that I believe was an All American defensive lineman. At least was very good. You can play and be good without spending your off season on the lecture circuit.


from Crane, Texas as I recall. If it's the same guy, I think he also played for the Broncos in the NFL.


No one has to be a great orator to play team sports they just need to be able to understand what it is they are doing. If not being able to talk to people very well gets in the way of that then you need to find a way.


That pretty well applies to life in general. I learn to "understand what I am doing" much better by not talking and listening than I do by talking.
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Postby kent dorfman » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:36 pm

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kent dorfman wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:
mrydel wrote:
There was a deaf/dumb (mute) player a few years ago that I believe was an All American defensive lineman. At least was very good. You can play and be good without spending your off season on the lecture circuit.


from Crane, Texas as I recall. If it's the same guy, I think he also played for the Broncos in the NFL.


No one has to be a great orator to play team sports they just need to be able to understand what it is they are doing. If not being able to talk to people very well gets in the way of that then you need to find a way.


That pretty well applies to life in general. I learn to "understand what I am doing" much better by not talking and listening than I do by talking.


So he doesnt need to be able to talk? How could the deaf/dumb guy listen to his coaches if he couldnt hear them?
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Postby Stallion » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:38 pm

Richard Neely overcame a hearing impediment to contend for All-SWC in the 1980s.
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Postby RGV Pony » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:41 pm

brief wikipedia article on the guy from Crane. Played at Nebraska. Kenny Walker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Walk ... n_football)
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Postby mrydel » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:42 pm

kent dorfman wrote:
mrydel wrote:
kent dorfman wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:
mrydel wrote:
There was a deaf/dumb (mute) player a few years ago that I believe was an All American defensive lineman. At least was very good. You can play and be good without spending your off season on the lecture circuit.


from Crane, Texas as I recall. If it's the same guy, I think he also played for the Broncos in the NFL.


No one has to be a great orator to play team sports they just need to be able to understand what it is they are doing. If not being able to talk to people very well gets in the way of that then you need to find a way.


That pretty well applies to life in general. I learn to "understand what I am doing" much better by not talking and listening than I do by talking.


So he doesnt need to be able to talk? How could the deaf/dumb guy listen to his coaches if he couldnt hear them?


The same way they do in real life. You do realize there are deaf/dumb people living through out the world don't you? They can read writing, lips and sign.

Watch the sidelines of a football game. The coaches signal the defense by holding up numbers and symbols on cards from the sidelines. I will admit, blind would be difficult, but deaf can be overcome.
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Postby kent dorfman » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:45 pm

mrydel wrote:
kent dorfman wrote:
mrydel wrote:
kent dorfman wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:
mrydel wrote:
There was a deaf/dumb (mute) player a few years ago that I believe was an All American defensive lineman. At least was very good. You can play and be good without spending your off season on the lecture circuit.


from Crane, Texas as I recall. If it's the same guy, I think he also played for the Broncos in the NFL.


No one has to be a great orator to play team sports they just need to be able to understand what it is they are doing. If not being able to talk to people very well gets in the way of that then you need to find a way.


That pretty well applies to life in general. I learn to "understand what I am doing" much better by not talking and listening than I do by talking.


So he doesnt need to be able to talk? How could the deaf/dumb guy listen to his coaches if he couldnt hear them?


The same way they do in real life. You do realize there are deaf/dumb people living through out the world don't you? They can read writing, lips and sign.

Watch the sidelines of a football game. The coaches signal the defense by holding up numbers and symbols on cards from the sidelines. I will admit, blind would be difficult, but deaf can be overcome.


Yeah....good point. :oops:
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Postby kent dorfman » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:52 pm

Yeah I kind of forgot where this whole thing was going.

So Odiari has a speech impediment that might be getting in the way of him getting on the field because he might be too embarrassed about it to be able to talk to his coaches if he needs to. But just as the deaf/dumb guy did, Odiari can overcome his impediment. But he also may have a problem with listening to his coaches which if that is the case then he needs to listen better.

But assuming he does not have that problem and he understands what it is his coaches are telling him because he pays attention, he might be seeing some things that are confusing to him. Things that he needs to talk to his coaches about which he cannot do too well if he is embarrassed about his impediment.
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Postby mrydel » Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:58 pm

Of course, as we all always do, we are assuming a lot of things without any facts on which to base them. He may just have a sprained ankle.
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Postby PoconoPony » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:14 pm

mrydel wrote:Of course, as we all always do, we are assuming a lot of things without any facts on which to base them. He may just have a sprained ankle.


Maybe he cannot communicate how much pain his sprained ankle is causing.
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