Should the NCAA investigate the Texas Thughorns?

smupony94 · Post by **smupony94** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:26 pm

I wishI would have been invited to the Dallas OU sorority party they had for their recruit

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:19 pm

Pony Soup wrote:give it up, mr. pony. Crying foul 20 years later isn't going to do you or us any good. Sorry the horns built eveything we wish we were.

Not sure what you mean, Soup. I'm not crying foul for us on this one. Just pointing out that the lesson of the DP was for school administrations is to stay away from the par-tays that still go on. Booster "activity", I'm guessing, has changed very little since 1987.

Why the hell shouldn't UT be investigated, (regardless of SMU's history)?

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:02 pm

as soon as one of you genuises points out a violation of NCAA enforcement rules maybe they will. The NCAA doesn't investigate Girls Gone Wild at college parties.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:46 pm

Yeah, sure, that's all it was. A "college party." :lol:

Insane_Pony_Posse · Post by **Insane_Pony_Posse** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:34 pm

mr pony i can't understand what they are afraid of?

if a recruit's family claims offers of bribes, money, & interest
free loans were made by Texas boosters before or after the
drug filled partay why not investigate if nothing else to
clear the name of Father Mack Brown and his Merry Band of
Alter Boyz down in Austin?

ponyte · Post by **ponyte** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:44 pm

It doesn't matter what we think or conclude, the NCAA does nothing. I have more faith in Sergeant Schultz from F Troop to find any evidence of an infraction than the NCAA.

I do feel for the woman's diving team from Western South Dakota State as they will get the death penalty to show how serious the NCAA is about cheating.

couch 'em · Post by **couch 'em** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:25 am

How about instead of whining about them doing what pretty much every other program is doing, we take notes and start building ours. You have to do what is necessary to win if you want to win.

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:30 am

smupony94 wrote:I wishI would have been invited to the Dallas OU sorority party they had for their recruit

Really?

http://www.ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=336183

Corso · Post by **Corso** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:11 am

Stallion wrote:as soon as one of you genuises points out a violation of NCAA enforcement rules maybe they will. The NCAA doesn't investigate Girls Gone Wild at college parties.

So are you contending that the NCAA wouldn't object to a party ├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓé¼┬¥ held (read: paid for) by UT boosters ├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓé¼┬¥ where recruits are being fawned over by big-bucks alums who have booze and perhaps drugs available? I'm not suggesting Tom Hicks is handing out eightballs at the door, but it clearly is the kind of association the NCAA wouldn't exactly condone. Maybe that's legal and I don't know it, or maybe you see another reason why such behavior shouldn't raise an eyebrow. If so, please share, because it sure looks bad.

(Nice comment by Mackey Mouse about "who's house do you like better?" Guess that down-home country charm is as fraudulent as reports of his coaching ability. Great recruiter ├â┬ó├óΓÇÜ┬¼├óΓé¼┬¥ average-at-best coach.)

If this story was written about a school that didn't have 100,000 people in the stands every Saturday, the NCAA would be making some calls.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:21 am

Corso wrote: If this story was written about a school that didn't have 100,000 people in the stands every Saturday, the NCAA would be making some calls.

You got THAT right.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:31 am

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:[color=blue]mr pony i can't understand what they are afraid of?

Who? UT people or 'SMU apologists for UT'?

'SMU apologists for UT'-types are still so very ashamed of our getting the DP and so very comfortable with their heads bowed. They've forfeited their right to ever complain about anyone else, because, after all, we were the worst of the worst. The NCAA said so.

It's a weasely, rubber-spined act meant to show how very sorry we still are - though cheating rages on.

Personally, I'm all for SMU leading the charge to end the cheating that still goes on at the big schools. Why not? Who better?

Pony Soup · Post by **Pony Soup** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:44 pm

mr. pony wrote:
Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:[color=blue]mr pony i can't understand what they are afraid of?

Who? UT people or 'SMU apologists for UT'?

'SMU apologists for UT'-types are still so very ashamed of our getting the DP and so very comfortable with their heads bowed. They've forfeited their right to ever complain about anyone else, because, after all, we were the worst of the worst. The NCAA said so.

It's a weasely, rubber-spined act meant to show how very sorry we still are - though cheating rages on.

Personally, I'm all for SMU leading the charge to end the cheating that still goes on at the big schools. Why not? Who better?

Nice try. I could not care less about the death penalty. Stop living in the past. You sound like a demo whining about the war in iraq at this point. Focus on getting better, not placing blame.

You are correct in stating that cheating still goes on. In fact, it goes on at just about every school and in every sport, be it during recruiting or once the athletes are enrolled. are you really going to do something about it? no....didnt think so.

mr. pony · Post by **mr. pony** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:32 pm

Bump.
DMN reports today (buried at bottom of page 8C) that Mack is unhappy with NYTimes. Reporter Carlton tries to ease things by stating no one in the athletic department offered the kid's mom a loan. Hey Carlton, it doesn't have to be from an AD rep to be a violation>>>

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 2afca.html

Pony Soup · Post by **Pony Soup** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:52 pm

mr. pony wrote:Bump.
DMN reports today (buried at bottom of page 8C) that Mack is unhappy with NYTimes. Reporter Carlton tries to ease things by stating no one in the athletic department offered the kid's mom a loan. Hey Carlton, it doesn't have to be from an AD rep to be a violation>>>

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 2afca.html

Mack hit the nail on the head (I am not reading this whole article so I am sticking to this part).

"One-sided stories usually don't make it when sources aren't checked on the other side," Brown said after Texas landed in Phoenix in preparation for the Jan. 5 Fiesta Bowl against Ohio State. "The story has absolutely no credibility with me because the writer did the same thing exactly last year, and it's obvious he has an agenda, in my mind, against Texas."

An article like that never should have been printed. It was clearly not objective.

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:52 pm

And here's the Chicago Sun Times blog entry confirming that the player disputes parts of the NYT article because he had "spiced up" the English paper the article was based on.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/2 ... ma_re.html