SMU going for QB Robert Marve (Miami transfer)

by **SMU 86** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:46 pm

Dutch wrote:
OC Mustang wrote:
friarwolf wrote:Hmmmmm....Disciplined for missing class, loves to party, and "wants to play close to home" due to family issues. Even if we do have a chance at him, red flags are flying all over this one..............

Missing classes? Coach has the answer for that.
Loves to party? Hello, can anyone say "Thetas"? Go Stifler.
Wants to play close to home? Cool. Home is good.
Family issues? SMU needs to offer to cover up this kid in resources to help him deal with family illness or anything else. Back in the day, OHRL had a helluva apparatus for dealing with issues like that. I know b/c I lost my mother during college, and my RA, Hall Director, and Area Coordinator dug me out of some pretty ugly, dark places.
They are good at it.

Close to home - home is in Tampa, Florida - only a long drive away.

as far as family goes - his stepdad died a year or two ago leaving his mom a widow, and his real father has cancer i believe.

I would love to get Robert here, but I would consider it a longshot and hope that our coaches are focused on players where they (coaches) have a greater likelihood of success of landing at SMU.

SMU is focusing on other athletes as well.

by **EastStang** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:47 pm

I'm sure he was eyeing USF since that is in Tampa. I would be surprised if Miami caved on that one. (Whether they would permit a transfer to Fla. Int'l or Fla. Atlantic or UCF is another story). The way I understand it, a release only means that you can play the next year. Without a release you can still transfer and sit out a year or go to 1-AA (Champioinship Division)without sitting out a year. I understand Miami's view on this. They also understand the idea of precedent. If you give him a release to USF, then next year another stud player comes asking to be released to UF.

by **ponydawg** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:54 pm

He has to sit unless he appeals to the NCAA and they approve it. Like our RB transfer is due to his mother being ill.

I believe the release that Miami can hold over him is which schools he can transfer to, has nothing to do with when he can play.

by **mrydel** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:55 pm

EastStang wrote:I'm sure he was eyeing USF since that is in Tampa. I would be surprised if Miami caved on that one. (Whether they would permit a transfer to Fla. Int'l or Fla. Atlantic or UCF is another story). The way I understand it, a release only means that you can play the next year. Without a release you can still transfer and sit out a year or go to 1-AA (Champioinship Division)without sitting out a year. I understand Miami's view on this. They also understand the idea of precedent. If you give him a release to USF, then next year another stud player comes asking to be released to UF.

I do not think the release allows you to play immediately at Div 1A. You have to sit regardless. All the kid needs to do is go enroll whereever he wants, sit a year and then he can play. I think the release allows him to sign a scholarship with another school but it does not waive the one year rule.

by **ponyboy** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:05 pm

But he can get an exception from the NCAA for certain circumstances, right?

by **mrydel** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:08 pm

ponyboy wrote:But he can get an exception from the NCAA for certain circumstances, right?

Yes but it is rare. If he is wanting to be near his father due to the cancer, then it will be difficult for an exemption unless he goes to where ever his father is. (Tampa?)

by **ponyboy** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:30 pm

So what about RB transfer McNeal? Any chance he'll get one?

by **ponydawg** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:33 pm

mrydel only sits on one board that decides McNeal's fate.....and I believe they have already met on his case.

by **ponyboy** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:40 pm

Sounds like WWHA.

by **mrydel** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:00 pm

ponydawg wrote:mrydel only sits on one board that decides McNeal's fate.....and I believe they have already met on his case.

Yes, you are both correct. We did want McNeal anyway. The decision on Marve has not yet been determined but there are those on the board who have suggested we may not want him anyway. Personally I would accept him, but talks are still ongoing.

by **mrydel** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:06 pm

ponyboy wrote:So what about RB transfer McNeal? Any chance he'll get one?

I mentioned on another thread that I think if there is ever a chance, this may be a good possibility. I never believed that Serge would get his and he did, so there are times that they do grant the waiver, but it seems to be very rare. Between his mother's illness and his 1 year old son, there are compelling reasons for understanding and compassion. The problem is that the NCAA have never been provided with the definitions of understanding and compassion.

by **BRStang** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:26 pm

mrydel wrote: The problem is that the NCAA have never been provided with the definitions of understanding and compassion.

Sure they have. It's just that the definitions they have been provided include something about "only applicable to BCS Conference Schools."

by **FIVE-O-FAN** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:43 pm

Based upon previous NCAA rulings I think that McNeal has a very good shot at gaining immediate eligibility. See the Tashard Choice case as a precedent.

by **abezontar** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:00 pm

Are the schools to which the student is transferring allowed to represent the student before the NCAA?

by **pony warrior** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:27 pm

He's the number 99 rated QB in Div. 1. Whoopie

SMU going for QB Robert Marve (Miami transfer)

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