The Official Big 10 is Being Exposed As Fraud Thread

[Stallion]

You guys are talking out your ass-UT's football schedule will show up in the BCS as one of the top strength of schedule ratings in the BCS-they will be 3 or 4th-5th at the very least if Florida wins. If OU wins they probably finish 2-3.

[expony18]

who said they wouldn't be? but if you read my final rankings thread i stated why i dont think UT will finish higher the 4

edit: do you really see one of the NC teams slipping below texas in the final rankings?

[Stallion]

Lit' [deleted] is talking about UT "maybe finishing in the Top 10". Its almost mathmatically impossible for Texas to finish outside the Top 5 if we are talking BCS.

[expony18]

ohhhh....... well then i will get out of the way

[Mustangs35SMU]

we need a playoff

Best line I've seen all night.

[George S. Patton]

I wasn't torn in the Fiesta Bowl. I've said before that when it comes to Texas playing a Big 10 school, it's Burnt Orange for me. However, a 1-6 bowl performance by the conference is a complete joke.

Whatever dude - you know you were crapping yourself in excitement before that final Texas drive. It kills you that you can't shove it in our faces with a Big 11 victory.

Well, then you don't know my history of who I have followed and for how long. Pony Soup, who jumps me about the Big 10 more than anyone, knows where I stand.

Even if Ohio State had won, I don't think shoving a 2-5 bowl record would be an appropriate thing to do.

Also, the Big 10 has lost its last six BCS games. This is a conference that has to do a lot of soul searching to do.

[OC Mustang]

I wasn't torn in the Fiesta Bowl. I've said before that when it comes to Texas playing a Big 10 school, it's Burnt Orange for me. However, a 1-6 bowl performance by the conference is a complete joke.

Whatever dude - you know you were crapping yourself in excitement before that final Texas drive. It kills you that you can't shove it in our faces with a Big 11 victory.

No...he really is about Texas...
The Big 11 is a diversion...kind of like a pole dance.
He's waiting for SMU to be competitive.

how is a pole dance a diversion?

You're kidding, right?

[GoRedGoBlue]

This is a trend that has been going on for 10-15 years and it ain't gonna change long term-there will be sporadic exceptions but the Big 10 suffers .

1997 -- Michigan split national championship
2002 -- Ohio State wins the national championship

P.S. Oklahoma and Ohio State have won the same number of BCS games this decade -- 2

Can we stop this? The access argument is BS. Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State have names and legendary status and will always get their share of great players. I said the flaw was what they were getting on the DL and LB.

You can take that argument and shove it.

Recall that Michigan had to split it, but it was rather obvious that Nebraska was the better team

OHIO state needed the refs to F Miami on phantom PI

[GoRedGoBlue]

the Big 10 has no significant wins this year EXCEPT PSU over Oregon State AT HOME. Penn State and it's coastal carolina and other 1aa schedule helped to propogate a strong PSU argument.

This year, Ohio State was blown out twice, and it's best victory was over Mich State - (Boot strap argument).

Year in and year out, the Big10 plays a very soft non-conference schedule laden with MAC teams, usually playing 2 of their 3 non-conference AT HOME.

When they played an 11 game schedule, they played only 2 non-conference (which further limited their exposure) while the rest of the country played 3 non-conference games. Furthermore, I would bet 80% of these games were HOME games.

The last few years, we've seen 1-aa's beat Michigan and some come damn close against Wisc and other Big10 pretenders. The MAC has been quite successful of late, too.

It's a total joke that OHIO STATE got a bid over Boise State, expecially considering they had 2 losses PLUS theirs and the Big10s recent history of being BLOWN OUT in BCS games. See last year.

[Pony Soup]

It's a total joke that OHIO STATE got a bid over Boise State, expecially considering they had 2 losses PLUS theirs and the Big10s recent history of being BLOWN OUT in BCS games. See last year.

I agree, Boise should have gotten the bid, but I do credit OSU for showing up ready to play. They went toe to toe with a top 3 team in the country for 59:41. Great game.

[Dubbya]

Also, the Big 10 has lost its last six BCS games. This is a conference that has to do a lot of soul searching to do.

Good god, you make it sound like they chose to get into this rut of mediocrity and now can get out of it through some sort of meditative itrospection. They got passed up by other conferences, and they're now way behind and falling off the pace ... quickly.

However, a 1-6 bowl performance by the conference is a complete joke.

No, it's pretty much the conference that's the joke.

[George S. Patton]

This is a trend that has been going on for 10-15 years and it ain't gonna change long term-there will be sporadic exceptions but the Big 10 suffers .

1997 -- Michigan split national championship
2002 -- Ohio State wins the national championship

P.S. Oklahoma and Ohio State have won the same number of BCS games this decade -- 2

Can we stop this? The access argument is BS. Michigan, Penn State and Ohio State have names and legendary status and will always get their share of great players. I said the flaw was what they were getting on the DL and LB.

You can take that argument and shove it.

Recall that Michigan had to split it, but it was rather obvious that Nebraska was the better team

OHIO state needed the refs to F Miami on phantom PI

This was discussed earlier on the thread. It might help you save time by reading that and how you conveniently forgot how Ohio State got screwed on calls earlier in the fourth quarter -- but don't worry about that.

But for your benefit, the crystal ball is sitting in Columbus. Sorry you lost money.

I would have liked to have seen Michigan and Nebraska play. We'll never know who was better. For sport, Michigan was better. Nebraska has better whiners like Scott Frost. SMU fans complain how the voters gave one to JoePa in 1982. That year, the voters did the same for Tom Osborne.

[PonyFan]

But for your benefit, the crystal ball is sitting in Columbus. Sorry you lost money.

And there's a Heisman Trophy in Heritage Hall ... are you teaching a history class now?

I would have liked to have seen Michigan and Nebraska play. We'll never know who was better. For sport, Michigan was better. Nebraska has better whiners like Scott Frost. SMU fans complain how the voters gave one to JoePa in 1982. That year, the voters did the same for Tom Osborne.

Whatever — Frost was a great player.

[ThadFilms]

Did I mention something about the Big Televen having the best bands? Maybe I was dreaming.



BTW - Dubbya, as I have said many times, I love the avatar. Shows him for trying to kick with the wrong foot.

[huskerpony]

I agree, Boise should have gotten the bid

Ok. First of all, Boise should NOT have gotten the bid--but TCU probably should have. Boise has the SAME problem all the Big Ten schools have. Weak conference. Play NO ONE non-conference. And think they can sneak into the BCS/NCG when no one else loses. The MWC, however, should be in the BCS. Tougher conference. And they schedule big name schools for their non-conference games. (They deserve to be there just as much as the Big East, ACC, and probably the Big 10!)

I would have liked to have seen Michigan and Nebraska play. We'll never know who was better. For sport, Michigan was better. Nebraska has better whiners like Scott Frost. SMU fans complain how the voters gave one to JoePa in 1982. That year, the voters did the same for Tom Osborne.

Dude. Get over it. Nebraska was far better than Michigan. (although we would have thoroughly enjoyed a match-up to wipe the wolverines up off the field, just like we did with Phil Fulmer and Peyton Manning.)

Tom Osborne already had two NC's at this point, and retired because Solich was leaving if he didn't, not to get sympathy votes. Nebraska was undefeated, played in the Big 12, beat Oklahoma by over 60 points, Texas A&M by over 40, and Tennessee (with Peyton Manning) 42-17. [This was all with a triple option mind you--no spread offenses yet.]

Only thing was, that the Big 10 had yet to be exposed for what they are.

PERHAPS--the real issue was not the coaches giving Tom Osborne his third national championship, but the sports writers giving Lloyd Carr his first??????????

Nebraska has better whiners like Scott Frost. SMU fans complain how the voters gave one to JoePa in 1982. That year, the voters did the same for Tom Osborne.

Whatever — Frost was a great player.

I would disagree that Frost was a great player. Very good. Not great. Nebraska has had far better quarterbacks. Whiner, I have a problem with. I never once heard the kid whine about anything. Michigan fans, on the other hand......

Word on the street though, is that Frost had a gambling problem and threw the ASU game in 96 because he owed a very large sum of money to someone in Vegas. (Texas beat us in the CCG though, so it didn't turn out to matter.)