George W. Bush Presidential Center (SMU)

[mrydel]

Clinton's library is on 28 acres. It cost $165 million when completed in 2004. Of course Little Rock real estate and construction cost may differ from Dallas. Also, there have been additions not calculated into the above mentioned cost. There have been buildings added to accommodate the artifacts (over 80,000) as well as documents (including emails). The city donated a lot of land and help create a 'park' so that cost may not be reflected in the $165.

How much of the 28 acres is building vs greenspace?

It is not greenspace, it is in space. If you have ever seen it, it looks like a mobile home on stilts sticking out over the Arkansas River. I have never been on the site, maybe ponyte has, but from what I have seen from a distance is a large parking lot and a suspended in air building. It was built in an industrial section of town that was primarily abandoned buildings. Although designated as a park, it does not look like a park. Good job of revitalizng an unused area, but not what you would call a beautiful site.

I have been a couple of times. I would recommend it. They currently have a chopper exhibition and there area some really rad bikes. Love him or hate him, there is a nice timeline of his administration and the events surrounding his administration. The White House schedule is available to the public (and no, it didn't have Monica scheduled the day Clinton got his Lewinsky). There is a life size mock up of the Oval office (other libraries do not have a full size mock up). And there is a replica of the Cabinet room. One can actually sit in the chairs and such in this room. It is an interesting place and available to the public for receptions, parties and such. Dallas may not need another party place but it sure has helped us folks in Arkansas when entertaining folks from outside the state.

I do plan on going just because it is a piece of history and right here available all the time. Just have not gone yet. I was not a Clinton supporter but have definitely witnessed the good that it brings to the area and am very glad it is here. And if I recall, admission is free on any Federal Holiday or something of the like.

[smupony94]

[quote="mrydel"
I do plan on going just because it is a piece of history and right here available all the time. Just have not gone yet. I was not a Clinton supporter but have definitely witnessed the good that it brings to the area and am very glad it is here. And if I recall, admission is free on any Federal Holiday or something of the like.[/quote]



Do girls in blue dresses get in free too?

[mrydel]

[quote="mrydel"
I do plan on going just because it is a piece of history and right here available all the time. Just have not gone yet. I was not a Clinton supporter but have definitely witnessed the good that it brings to the area and am very glad it is here. And if I recall, admission is free on any Federal Holiday or something of the like.

Do girls in blue dresses get in free too?[/quote]

They get no special treatment. Remember this is the home of Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, Ms. Brodrick (I believe it is), etc. If we started making special privledges for old relationships and those who are look alikes, there would nrever be any admission paid.

[CA Mustang]

http://georgewbushlibrary.com/home
32 acres site plan.
Lots of landscaping.
Some of SMU Boulevard gets curved.
Parking lots are not prominent.
Athletics facilities at the southern end.

On which page was the site plan located? I went through the web site, but didn't see any plans there.

[CalallenStang]

Looks like they were taken down.

[couch 'em]

definitely gone. Anyone save the image?

[couch 'em]

Managed to find the image. It is no longer accessible from the site, but the image is still available directly:

[HB Pony Dad]

This might explain why the plan went MIA:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 78e5c.html

Despite the legal tangle, the Bush library foundation appears to be moving forward and recently unveiled on its Web site the first site plan, with one large building anchoring the north part of a 32-acre, heavily landscaped tract along North Central Expressway at Mockingbird Lane.

It is the most detailed footprint made public so far of the library, which includes the archives, a museum and a public policy institute. Although the overhead drawing does not provide an up-close rendering of the building or its architecture, it shows a large complex with an adjoining wing surrounded by a buffer of tree-lined walkways.

The legal battle concerns ownership of land in the southern half of the tract, which the drawing indicates would be sweeping greenbelts with athletic courts.

It is unclear whether the loss of the disputed land would prevent the presidential complex from being built as planned. A call to the library's foundation was not immediately returned Wednesday.

[smupony94]

HBPD - let's team up and bid on the construction

[couch 'em]

Such a waste of campus space. Let's can the landscaping and build a football practice facility, a small lacrosse stadium, and a bar for alumni serving very cheap drinks and very loose women.

[EastStang]

Clinton's library is on 28 acres. It cost $165 million when completed in 2004. Of course Little Rock real estate and construction cost may differ from Dallas. Also, there have been additions not calculated into the above mentioned cost. There have been buildings added to accommodate the artifacts (over 80,000) as well as documents (including emails). The city donated a lot of land and help create a 'park' so that cost may not be reflected in the $165.

I thought they just pulled a double wide up to the site for the Clinton Library.

[ponyte]

Clinton's library is on 28 acres. It cost $165 million when completed in 2004. Of course Little Rock real estate and construction cost may differ from Dallas. Also, there have been additions not calculated into the above mentioned cost. There have been buildings added to accommodate the artifacts (over 80,000) as well as documents (including emails). The city donated a lot of land and help create a 'park' so that cost may not be reflected in the $165.

I thought they just pulled a double wide up to the site for the Clinton Library.

Check out the pics of the place. It is definitely a single wide. Please remember that just a few short years ago the Arkansas Governor’s Mansion was a triple wide (we don't skimp on cost when it comes to the governor). Michelin tires offered the state a bunch of money to use the governor’s mansion in a commercial. Something along the lines that only Michelin’s will do for the governor’s mansion. The state turn them down

This is true. The Governor’s Mansion was being renovated and the temp housing was a triple wide.

So in Arkyland, a triple wide is like a Turtle Creek Mansion and a single wide is good enough for ex elected officials.

[OC Mustang]

Clinton's library is on 28 acres. It cost $165 million when completed in 2004. Of course Little Rock real estate and construction cost may differ from Dallas. Also, there have been additions not calculated into the above mentioned cost. There have been buildings added to accommodate the artifacts (over 80,000) as well as documents (including emails). The city donated a lot of land and help create a 'park' so that cost may not be reflected in the $165.

How much of the 28 acres is building vs greenspace?

It is not greenspace, it is in space. If you have ever seen it, it looks like a mobile home on stilts sticking out over the Arkansas River. I have never been on the site, maybe ponyte has, but from what I have seen from a distance is a large parking lot and a suspended in air building. It was built in an industrial section of town that was primarily abandoned buildings. Although designated as a park, it does not look like a park. Good job of revitalizng an unused area, but not what you would call a beautiful site.

I have been a couple of times. I would recommend it. They currently have a chopper exhibition and there area some really rad bikes. Love him or hate him, there is a nice timeline of his administration and the events surrounding his administration. The White House schedule is available to the public (and no, it didn't have Monica scheduled the day Clinton got his Lewinsky). There is a life size mock up of the Oval office (other libraries do not have a full size mock up). And there is a replica of the Cabinet room. One can actually sit in the chairs and such in this room. It is an interesting place and available to the public for receptions, parties and such. Dallas may not need another party place but it sure has helped us folks in Arkansas when entertaining folks from outside the state.

I was up there over last weekend. Saw the chopper exhibit. It was my 2nd time at the Library, and my fifth or sixth time in that downtown area (The Flying Fish and Flying Burrito are the bomb!).

Respectfully to mrydel, I very much like the architecture, particularly inside the library. The outside is supposed to look like a bridge...er...okay. The School of Public Service in the rail station looks pleasant. The fountains outside are quite aesthetically pleasing.

As a funny aside, a raccoon evidently got into the building somehow and tracked up the Cabinet Room replica and rug.

I am excited about the library...less so about the policy center. In any case, I am hopeful that it will be architectually very well done.

[mrydel]

Respectfully to mrydel, I very much like the architecture, particularly inside the library. The outside is supposed to look like a bridge...er...okay. The School of Public Service in the rail station looks pleasant. The fountains outside are quite aesthetically pleasing.

As a funny aside, a raccoon evidently got into the building somehow and tracked up the Cabinet Room replica and rug.

I am excited about the library...less so about the policy center. In any case, I am hopeful that it will be architectually very well done.

As I said I have never been inside the building. Everyone with whom I have discussed the library who has been inside has remarked that it is very well done. I did not mean to indicate otherwise. Personally, however, I do not like the outside. I just think it looks strange.

I also think the raccoon is a permanent part of the exhibits.

[Paladin]

Clinton's library is on 28 acres. It cost $165 million when completed in 2004. Of course Little Rock real estate and construction cost may differ from Dallas. Also, there have been additions not calculated into the above mentioned cost. There have been buildings added to accommodate the artifacts (over 80,000) as well as documents (including emails). The city donated a lot of land and help create a 'park' so that cost may not be reflected in the $165.

I thought they just pulled a double wide up to the site for the Clinton Library.

Check out the pics of the place. It is definitely a single wide. Please remember that just a few short years ago the Arkansas Governor’s Mansion was a triple wide (we don't skimp on cost when it comes to the governor). Michelin tires offered the state a bunch of money to use the governor’s mansion in a commercial. Something along the lines that only Michelin’s will do for the governor’s mansion. The state turn them down

This is true. The Governor’s Mansion was being renovated and the temp housing was a triple wide.

So in Arkyland, a triple wide is like a Turtle Creek Mansion and a single wide is good enough for ex elected officials.

Seen Hilary lately ? It would take a triple wide to house her.