No way around it: OUTCOACHED

[817pony]

Doherty is going to get 5 years so you might want to sit back and enjoy it. He deserves to have an upperclass before we run him out of town.

I don't know about that. I can see 4. But if 4 goes the same way as the first three, then upperclass or not, it may not be enough to save him.

Since when is our programs at such a high level that Doh should be on the hot seat? I am not sure if you have noticed but this has been a bad program for a long time. When Doh got here this team was in such a bad place as far as recruiting and players here that it is taking a while just to correct those things. I mean if you were a top player in the area why would you want to go to SMU? The only reason would be Doh. He is by far the best man for this job. I do not see him going anywhere anytime soon.

[The XtC]

Some of you guys....... I seriously cant figure out if you really mean this, or if you're just trolling for shock value.

[NickSMU17]

What would you do XTC?

Is there anybody out there to replace him??

[The XtC]

I'm going to sit back and watch the meltdown.

I know that's not the answer you were looking for, you'd like to know what I would do if I were in charge, but the answer to that is I would have done things differently 3-4 years ago. I'm not in charge and have no voice in what will eventually happen here, so what I'm going to do is sit back and watch. I don't think I'm even going to make too many more snide and sarcastic remarks anymore, because they are starting to make my stomach churn, and I dont see much point in trying to argue with the Kool-Aid drinkers.

I'll tell you what I think WILL happen, though. SMU will beat CSU-Bakersfield and Rice (one of the Owls best players has a broken wrist, and I dont think he'll be back in time for the game at Moody). If Doherty is able to hold the roster together, next year should see a mild improvement, and vocal sentiment will swing back in Doherty's favor, and he may receive a one year contract extension. If he cant hold the roster together, if we lose 2-3 key people, then next year looks alot like this one, and Rob Evans will be SMU's new mens basketball coach in the spring of 2010.

I dont expect to see Alex Malone in an SMU uniform again.

That's not exactly a direct answer to your question, but it's the best I can do.

[George S. Patton]

Doherty is going to get 5 years so you might want to sit back and enjoy it. He deserves to have an upperclass before we run him out of town.

I don't know about that. I can see 4. But if 4 goes the same way as the first three, then upperclass or not, it may not be enough to save him.

Since when is our programs at such a high level that Doh should be on the hot seat? I am not sure if you have noticed but this has been a bad program for a long time. When Doh got here this team was in such a bad place as far as recruiting and players here that it is taking a while just to correct those things. I mean if you were a top player in the area why would you want to go to SMU? The only reason would be Doh. He is by far the best man for this job. I do not see him going anywhere anytime soon.

A flaw-filled response.

[friarwolf]

harp was/is on the floor late in games bc he is the best on the ball defender SMU has. against rice and last night Doh did do quite a bit of subbing harp in on D and keeping nayakundi in on O. i will admit that harp has been an absolute nonfactor on offense in his two years at SMU. however, you cannot complain about having poor defense yet in the same breath b*tch about having your top on-ball defender on the floor bc he doesn't contribute enough on the offensive side of the ball.

Sorry but I don't know what you are seeing in regards to Harp. I agree he knows how to defend and I wish everyone would "get big" with their defensive stance like he does but, he gets toasted the second the ball is put on the floor by the man he is guarding. He just doesn't have the necessary foot speed and quickness to keep in front of his man.

[angryfan04]

Non of our guys play good defense..

[Stallion]

Well there is no way in hell Doherty gets fired next year. That would be the second Coach that we fired before he Coached a Senior Class-and if that happens then the people doing the firing need to be shown the door. This ain't a great job. We've got the oldest basketball facility in the state of Texas-Doherty was handed a complete mess by the Tubbs situation. Get a grip. turning the program around ain't going to happen overnite from where this program started. Hell it didn't even happen at Baylor and they were recruiting circles around SMU.

[PoconoPony]

Glen,

I'm not brushing it aside but there are programs that have started football and/or just moved up to IA within the last 10 years that have accomplished far more than SMU in that time frame.

As for hoops, I thought Dement did a really good job, best of any SMU coach in football or hoops in the last 20 years, he just couldn't get over that final hurdle.

The hoops program now is a complete mess.[/quote]

Check out the University of Connetticut and U. of Buffalo football programs who became Div I programs within the last 6 years.

[Hoop Fan]

Well there is no way in hell Doherty gets fired next year. That would be the second Coach that we fired before he Coached a Senior Class-and if that happens then the people doing the firing need to be shown the door. This ain't a great job. We've got the oldest basketball facility in the state of Texas-Doherty was handed a complete mess by the Tubbs situation. Get a grip. turning the program around ain't going to happen overnite from where this program started. Hell it didn't even happen at Baylor and they were recruiting circles around SMU.

Cam Spencer would have been a senior next year. Another miss that got run off. all coaches have an obstacle in assembling a late class in their first year too. give Doherty all the time you want but have to say Dement was light years ahead of him in building a program and some enthusiasm by this time. no matter what, you can't lose to ECU at home with their freshman leading scorer and soph point guard. between all the horrible home losses, the 7 man freshman class laying an egg in year 2, and the fact that we have one marginal commit for next year, yeah, there are plenty of concerns. I want to see doh get it done, and i really like Paul McCoy but if its not time to push the panic button its close. Some good things need to happen soon. good wins, promising recruits, one exciting local recruit. something.

[papawasamustang]

Well there is no way in hell Doherty gets fired next year. That would be the second Coach that we fired before he Coached a Senior Class-and if that happens then the people doing the firing need to be shown the door. This ain't a great job. We've got the oldest basketball facility in the state of Texas-Doherty was handed a complete mess by the Tubbs situation. Get a grip. turning the program around ain't going to happen overnite from where this program started. Hell it didn't even happen at Baylor and they were recruiting circles around SMU.

Cam Spencer would have been a senior next year. Another miss that got run off. all coaches have an obstacle in assembling a late class in their first year too. give Doherty all the time you want but have to say Dement was light years ahead of him in building a program and some enthusiasm by this time. no matter what, you can't lose to ECU at home with their freshman leading scorer and soph point guard. between all the horrible home losses, the 7 man freshman class laying an egg in year 2, and the fact that we have one marginal commit for next year, yeah, there are plenty of concerns. I want to see doh get it done, and i really like Paul McCoy but if its not time to push the panic button its close. Some good things need to happen soon. good wins, promising recruits, one exciting local recruit. something.

Hoops, we are thinking along the same lines.
Also, interesting stat about Harp. Last year he jacked up 75 3 pointers & had 143 shots from the field. Actually hit some pretty big 3's in some games. This year he has taken 2 3's & a total of 20 shots. How's that for confidence & development.
Dia avg 9.7 pts & 6.5 boards last year. This year he's @ 6.2 pts & 4.8 boards.
Its a shame about Malone.
For everyone thinking Fall is having a better year this year, well, the stats don't really point that out. Last year he avg 11.8 & 5.6. This years hes @ 9.9 & 7.4.
Lack of player development has become a major concern with this team & coaching staff.
The soph class, the future of the squad, is @ best looking like a grade of D right now IMO.

[LA_Mustang]

Also, interesting stat about Harp. Last year he jacked up 75 3 pointers & had 143 shots from the field. Actually hit some pretty big 3's in some games. This year he has taken 2 3's & a total of 20 shots. How's that for confidence & development.
Dia avg 9.7 pts & 6.5 boards last year. This year he's @ 6.2 pts & 4.8 boards.

that is very telling...Dia in particular

[George S. Patton]

Doherty had no problem publicly calling Nyakundi out because he couldn't make his mile time.

But now with Malone? We're just going to casually let that story disappear and hope whoever notices really won't question it. Unless there is a personal thing going on here, the cloak and dagger business really is a bunch of garbage.

On Monday's radio show, somebody from the audience or Rich better step up and ask the question of what's going on with him. And Doherty better not get into spin zone with this.

[George S. Patton]

Well there is no way in hell Doherty gets fired next year. That would be the second Coach that we fired before he Coached a Senior Class-and if that happens then the people doing the firing need to be shown the door. This ain't a great job. We've got the oldest basketball facility in the state of Texas-Doherty was handed a complete mess by the Tubbs situation. Get a grip. turning the program around ain't going to happen overnite from where this program started. Hell it didn't even happen at Baylor and they were recruiting circles around SMU.

Cam Spencer would have been a senior next year. Another miss that got run off. all coaches have an obstacle in assembling a late class in their first year too. give Doherty all the time you want but have to say Dement was light years ahead of him in building a program and some enthusiasm by this time. no matter what, you can't lose to ECU at home with their freshman leading scorer and soph point guard. between all the horrible home losses, the 7 man freshman class laying an egg in year 2, and the fact that we have one marginal commit for next year, yeah, there are plenty of concerns. I want to see doh get it done, and i really like Paul McCoy but if its not time to push the panic button its close. Some good things need to happen soon. good wins, promising recruits, one exciting local recruit. something.

Dia avg 9.7 pts & 6.5 boards last year. This year he's @ 6.2 pts & 4.8 boards.
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Lack of player development has become a major concern with this team & coaching staff.
The soph class, the future of the squad, is @ best looking like a grade of D right now IMO.

Compare Dia's development to Haley Day's development. Yes, the game is different. But just embrace the concept of a player and where things have gone from year one to year two.

Day's game has accelerated to a higher plateau. She appears to have worked to get there. She was 1.9 ppg and 2.0 rpg as a freshman and 8.4 ppg and 4.2 rpg as as sophomore. Looks like she put herself in position to be instrumental.

Dia's game is a mess. He has regressed and mentality checked out. Looks like he put himself in position to be a complete knucklehead. Again, I think it's 50-50 he returns in 2009-2010.

[papawasamustang]

Why is the womens BB program so much better than the men's?

Also, check out #2 on the attachment below.

http://coacheshotseat.com/coacheshotseatblogcb/