Losing out on Scotty Young

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:57 am

George S. Patton wrote:Yes, we have decided to offer only one QB this year. And if we get him, great. If we don't, then we'll wait until the 2011 class. Looks like we're waiting because there are no other quarterbacks out there that we will pursue ever again for the 2010 class.

Sometimes, it's unbelievable how tunneled the thinking is in recruiting.

Do you realize what you're saying here? We've had 2 consecutive 1 win seasons and last year our starting QB threw as many INTs as TDs.....so we are going to only offer one QB and if he doesn't commit we will sit tight until next year??? My god, man. Get real. There isn't a position on this team that we couldn't use a serious upgrade in, much less QB.....to suggest that there is only one who we will or should offer is absolutely insane.

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:01 am

LA_Mustang wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:Yes, we have decided to offer only one QB this year. And if we get him, great. If we don't, then we'll wait until the 2011 class. Looks like we're waiting because there are no other quarterbacks out there that we will pursue ever again for the 2010 class.

Sometimes, it's unbelievable how tunneled the thinking is in recruiting.
Do you realize what you're saying here? We've had 2 consecutive 1 win seasons and last year our starting QB threw as many INTs as TDs.....so we are going to only offer one QB and if he doesn't commit we will sit tight until next year??? My god, man. Get real. There isn't a position on this team that we couldn't use a serious upgrade in, much less QB.....to suggest that there is only one who we will or should offer is absolutely insane.

P.T. Barnum would love you.

SMU 86 · Post by **SMU 86** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:44 am

Coach Jones may wait until his summer camp to offer a QB that he has seen throw in person. I know he is really picky about his QB offers.

HFvictory · Post by **HFvictory** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:24 am

In talking to some of the coaches in that area it would be tough for JJ to recruit out of any Denton HS, much less Ryan at this point.

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:31 am

HFvictory wrote:In talking to some of the coaches in that area it would be tough for JJ to recruit out of any Denton HS, much less Ryan at this point.

That's OK. TCU had a great experience with another Ryan quarterback in James Battle. Remember the hype that came with him?

And if you're inferring that because Jones removed Willis -- a former Ryan player -- as the starting QB, I find that a little hard to believe. Coaches understand the business and personnel moves, even the unpopular ones. If Joey Florence and John Walsh and the others hold that over our heads, then that's pretty stinko on their part.

However, I give Florence, Walsh and others more credit than that.

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:32 am

HFvictory wrote:In talking to some of the coaches in that area it would be tough for JJ to recruit out of any Denton HS, much less Ryan at this point.

Because of Willis?

That's just ridiculous.

RGV Pony · Post by **RGV Pony** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:34 am

MustangIcon wrote:
RGV Pony wrote:good point on Willis. He was rated as high as Pat White coming out of HS...a high 3-star.
Not sure what Pat White was rated coming out of highschool but Justin Willis was rated a 5.5 by rivals. ie the lowest 3 star possible. Kyle Padron was rated a 5.4 star this past year- the highest rated 2 star possible, per rivals. Seems to me that rivals saw them to be similar prospects coming out of high school. Will Padron ever put together two seasons as good as Willis' first 2 at SMU? Not sure, but regardless I don't think it will be because of their rivals ratings in this instance.

after watching the sugar bowl WVU vs UGA, I posted a question as to what Willis was rated...I recall someone else posting they were the same.

I would submit that 5.5 is a high three for us. Seeing is how we don't get that many of them anyway.

To HF, why the difficulties for JJ in Denton?

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:36 am

CalallenStang wrote:Because of Willis?

That's just ridiculous.

why is that ridiculous?

CalallenStang · Post by **CalallenStang** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:41 am

LA_Mustang wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Because of Willis?

That's just ridiculous.
why is that ridiculous?

Blocking JJ from recruiting in Denton ISD because he suspended a player for breaking the rules, then allowed him back on the team and moved him to a position where he should flourish in the offense is absolutely ridiculous.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:00 pm

I think he may be referring to several Denton area players dismissed.

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:03 pm

Ahh. I forgot about the Goldthorpe thing. But who else was among them? I forgot the list.

But if they're going to get pissy about that. Keep in mind, Jones said in his statement that he was going to help them find another place. I don't if that will really happen, but if he does, wouldn't that speak to him differently?

I really hope that these coaches got both sides of the story, and didn't let their natural bias toward their player run interference.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:44 pm

I think Sowe is another-plus what happened to Willis could still have an affect. Young mentioned that he grew up watching Willis at Denton Ryan. I've said before and will again that I agree with HFvictory that there is a cost for agressively running players off-right or wrong that is the perception based on how the release was handled-the issue is whether the cost is outweighed by the benefit. But to put blinders on and blabber on about "everybody does it" doesn't get to the point. The reputation can hurt in some cases.

jtstang · Post by **jtstang** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:51 pm

[deleted] 'em then. Let them play for NTSU.

LA_Mustang · Post by **LA_Mustang** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:52 pm

our only chance is that Young has aspirations to move to TE/WR after a couple of years

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:04 pm

We'll offer another qb...probably Jacob Morgan since he was also looking at Tech