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More Billy Gillispie fallout from Kentucky

Postby George S. Patton » Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:24 am

I realize this is going to piggyback the other Doherty thread, but...

I was listening to Doug Gottlieb this morning, and he thought it was pretty much -- again his opinion -- that Gillispie is done. Just like Seth Davis' report.

Gottlieb cited a strain between Gillispie and AD Mitch Barnhart and the faithful and the playboy lifestyle Gillispie leads. That doesn't bode well when you're not winning enough.

Plus, Gottlieb mentioned that -- I forgot this happened -- that Gillispie had some middle men call about the Oklahoma State opening last year before it went to Travis Ford.

Three other things about the Kentucky season:
1. When it's a bad year in the SEC and 3 teams only go to the NCAA tournament and Kentucky isn't one of them, that's a problem.
2. When Kentucky goes to the NIT, that's a problem
3. When Kentucky goes to the NIT and plays 2 of its 3 games ON THE ROAD, that's a problem.

I guess the Memphis fans are going to get worried because Calipari's name is already being thrown in there. Speculation from ESPN radio is that they would call Pitino then Florida's Billy Donovan and then Calipari.

Gottlieb thought Gillispie would take a nice buyout and probably return to Texas, probably sit out a year and try and land somewhere in the state.

Question: If Doherty has another poor season and Gillispie is out there, do we think Orsini would make a move?

I think the major issue to follow with Doherty is whether talk will surface about a contract extension during his fourth year. If the season tanks and the talk is quiet, that would be telling. No coach wants to go into the "fifth" year of his deal without security.

Extensions are a big part as to whether a coach is coming back or not.
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Postby EastStang » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:51 am

No doubt that if we have a bad year and Doh doesn't get an extension, the handwriting is on the wall. As far as Gillespie is concerned for all those desiring a DFW based team, he would be a great choice. The only problems would be his pay grade and the fact that he would be looking for his next job from the first day he sets foot on Campus. Obviously, his penchant for coeds might be a problem for our Methodist Trustees. I'm hoping for Doh to have a great year next year so that all this nattering nabobs of negativism goes away.
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Re: More Billy Gillispie fallout from Kentucky

Postby CA Mustang » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:47 pm

George S. Patton wrote:Gottlieb thought Gillispie would take a nice buyout and probably return to Texas, probably sit out a year and try and land somewhere in the state.

According to comments made near the end of the broadcast last night, it will be $6M. That qualifies as far more than a nice buyout!

If Doherty feels extra heat next season with Gilliespie back in the state and waiting for his next opportunity, that's fine with me. The last three seasons have been pathetic and MD needs to know that it won't be tolerated for long.
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Postby Nacho » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:56 pm

I would be shocked if he had any interest whatsoever in this job. To go from A&M to Kentucky to SMU--I don't see it.

Remember this is the guy who intentionally got the Arkansas coach fired so he could go there but then went to Kentucky when it opened up. Not a stand up guy. My vote is no.
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Postby mrydel » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:06 pm

The Arkansas coach got fired all by himself.
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Postby Nacho » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:13 pm

Arkansas fired the guy after they thought the had Billy Clyde locked up. When ol BG gave them the heave ho they had no plan b and had to scramble like mad to find some unknown at directional Alabama which as it turns out was probably a good thing.
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Postby George S. Patton » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:26 pm

The thing with Doherty is just watch how the season goes and follow where the talk on the extension stands -- with or without Billy in the mix.
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Postby Nacho » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:35 pm

There are rumors for what it's worth of Billy going to Alabama or Georgia.
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Postby EastStang » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:00 pm

Billy will go to whomever offers him the biggest $$$$. I suspect his buyout will be conditioned on his not coaching for an SEC school for a period of time which might either allow him to sit for a year or two before going to Georgia or Alabama. The bloom is off the rose for him though and perhaps he might find that some of those schools that have been mentioned might not be so anxious to sign him next year.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:15 pm

was doh suppose to be the savior for our bball program?
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Postby Nacho » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:42 pm

Coaches are typically hired to win. I dont know if that makes him a savior.

Evidently Kentucky will decide on Billy tomorrow. Could get interesting in the sec if Donovan goes to Kentucky, which I doubt. I'm guessing Billy is gone and will end up at a high profile school and that Doh is here next year.
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Postby CA Mustang » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:02 pm

Nacho wrote:Arkansas fired the guy after they thought the had Billy Clyde locked up. When ol BG gave them the heave ho they had no plan b and had to scramble like mad to find some unknown at directional Alabama which as it turns out was probably a good thing.

Remember they hired Altman from Creighton but he backed out after a few days.
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Postby davidpaul123 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:07 pm

Doh is a great guy, but the results have not been there.

Id like to see Billy Clyde in here.
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Postby mrydel » Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:49 pm

Nacho, I know you have no respect for anything I say but please believe me, Arkansas did not fire Stan Heath because they were getting Gillespie. They may have thought they were going to get him or they may have wanted him, but Heath was gone regardless. I have to listen to the Arkansas crap all day every day. I may just accidentlally learn something about what is going on hear occasionally. They hired Altman from Creighton and he backed out after one day, and I would not call Pelphrey a nobody. Arkansas folks are afraid that Kentucky will come after him.
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Postby J.T.supporta » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:39 pm

davidpaul123 wrote:Doh is a great guy, but the results have not been there.


take out "doh" and insert any former bball or football coach within the past 25 years at smu
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