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Postby Cadillac » Mon May 18, 2009 12:27 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:
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Postby SMU 86 » Wed May 20, 2009 3:40 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:The coaches are allowed to speak to a recruit if the player initiates contact. So most players are coached to go up and introduce themselves or say hi when a coach is on campus that way the coach can talk to them. This happens all the time. In fact Tressel was on a high school campus Friday and did this exact thing.

I know this is my first post so take it for what you will but a very good friend of mine is a coach at a high school here in Houston. He tells me about visits by coaches all the time and instructs his player to initiate the conversation. Coach Jones has even been on campus talking to this same kid.

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Head coaches are not allowed to set foot on high school campuses during spring evaluation as of last year. See NCAA rules.


Here is an article on the issue:

http://blog.al.com/chatter/2009/04/the_ ... nd_ma.html

The NCAA, the Saban rule and Mark Richt
Posted by Paul Gattis -- The Huntsville Times April 28, 2009 4:11 PM
Categories: SEC
API'm pretty sure Georgia coach Mark Richt isn't giving the thumbs-up to the NCAA.
I don't even have to tell you how absolutely stupid this development is. You can figure out the insanity of the NCAA all by yourself so I'll just keep my thoughts of just how ludicrous this is to myself.

Georgia coach Mark Richt wanted to go to the graduation of signee Chris Burnette, who was a candidate to be the valedictorian at Troup County High in Georgia.

But an NCAA rule, unofficially dubbed the "Saban rule", prohibits head coaches from stepping foot on a high school campus during the spring evaluation period. And the NCAA denied a waiver requested by Georgia.


Good for the NCAA. It's much better to protect their precious rules regarding recruiting without regard to the specific situation -- especially when it comes to bringing attention to the academic achievement of a future "student-athlete."

Imagine the problems it would have caused for Richt to attend Burnette's graduation. College football would have turned into anarchy. I think we should all take a moment for a deep breath at the disaster averted by the geniuses at the NCAA.

But maybe there's still hope for Richt. Maybe he could request another waiver, asking that he be escorted to the graduation by two members of the NCAA enforcement staff -- who could make sure Richt didn't look or talk or even so much as wink at a "prospective student-athlete." Then during the ceremony, the school could set up an isolation booth for Richt with a view only of the podium where Burnette would deliver his valedictory address.

Sure, it would be risky to allow a fugitive like Richt out into the public sector during such a critical time as the spring evaluation period. But, on second thought, imagine if Georgia won the national championship in the next 3-4 years. The title would be tainted because, well, back in the spring of 2009, Richt spent an hour on a high school campus in an isolation booth.

Yes, it's best not to bring that shame to the Bulldog nation.

And thanks to the NCAA, that's a danger averted.

OK, some links to further explain the situation:

A report in the AJC first bringing the situation to light and encouraging Richt to break the rule.

A response from the NCAA, full of hurt feelings and righteous indignation at being called "big" and "bad."

Burnette learned that despite a 5.12 GPA, a classmate was named valedictorian. Burnette is still hopeful of giving a speech at graduation and Georgia applies for the waiver.

The NCAA denied Georgia's request for permission for Richt to attend the ceremony.


What you just did in your first post was accuse Coach Tressel and Coach
Jones of violating NCAA rules. I do not believe they were at high school campuses. Also, when a player says hello to an assistant coach the assistant coach is suppose to say hello back and keep going and not hold a conversation. It's called the "bump" rule.
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Re: #6?

Postby RednBlue11 » Tue May 26, 2009 1:10 pm

SMU2007 wrote:when will we get our sixth commitment? who will it be?

(Did I get this right Expony?)

Edit: Thoughts?


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Postby ericdickerson4life » Wed May 27, 2009 10:24 am

Well to defend myself and my first post, let me say, first off, that June was not on the high school campus during the Spring Evaluation period. Sorry for the confusion on that part. He was there back in late March, early April prior to the the Spring Evaluation period.

Secondly, I also was just trying to respond to the fact that high school coaches do talk to athletes on campus, but only after the athlete has initiated communication. I'm not accusing any wrong doing from Coach Tressel or any other coach.

Third point, the Spring Evaluation period runs from April 15th to May 30th. During that time "The NCAA allows two visits from each college program to a particular high school during the spring evaluation period. One of those visits can be used to assess an individual's athletic abilities and the other can be used to assess the student's academic qualifications."

http://www.freep.com/article/20090422/SPORTS06/90422002

So according to this article Coach Tressel was not doing anything illegal by being on campus, and I didn't accuse him of doing anything illegal. As he was there to assess the individual's athletic ability and this was his only visit.
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Postby SMU 86 » Sun May 31, 2009 6:18 pm

Two month plus prior to the spring evaluation period no coaches are allowed on high school campuses, be they head coaches or assistants. If you are saying they showed up before the evaluation period that in of itself is a violation. Again, I do not believe Jones or Tressel were at high school campuses before or during the spring evaluation period.
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