recruiting article (beware doom and gloomers)

gostangs · Post by **gostangs** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:47 am

I'm sure Orsini and Gerald Ford are wringing their hands daily over the potential loss of your donations. Most big time donors spend lots of time on message boards posting useless filibusters.

Some of you folks need to get over yourselves.

We have the best AD and the best football coach we could possibly expect given our circumstances. Lets just stay out the way and let them do their job. If you disagree - dont renew your tickets or send your whopping 200 bucks - but don't beat down the rest of us with your narcissism.

davidpaul123 · Post by **davidpaul123** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:50 am

Ive gotta agree with Stallion in the sense that the current commitments were not on the absolute top of the board.

that being said, i think we are going to find that even though these recruits are not at the top of the board we are still doing a nice job. These kids from both the numbers and the tape are bigger, faster and more athletically gifted than what we've recruited in the PB days.

we still need to grab some of the guys with stars by their names. while we have a shot at some of them, i think we all agree winning ultimately will be the biggest catalyst for that on into the future.

George S. Patton · Post by **George S. Patton** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:51 am

gostangs wrote:I'm sure Orsini and Gerald Ford are wringing their hands daily over the potential loss of your donations. Most big time donors spend lots of time on message boards posting useless filibusters.

Some of you folks need to get over yourselves.

We have the best AD and the best football coach we could possibly expect given our circumstances. Lets just stay out the way and let them do their job. If you disagree - dont renew your tickets or send your whopping 200 bucks - but don't beat down the rest of us with your narcissism.

So I guess you're OK with another 2-10 season. Ok, you just go along to get along.

San Antonio Mustang · Post by **San Antonio Mustang** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:54 am

Good post Insane. You are right that the Tim Tebow's of the future are not yet signing, but at least Coach Jones is getting into the living room. In the old days our coaches were not getting past the front door. I take from the article the writer believes (as do I) we are going to start winning and then some of those big stars are going to say yes to SMU. It will still be hard because we are not BCS. But, George, HF, and Stallion are all correct that if we do not start wining then the job will get immeasurably harder.

davidpaul123 · Post by **davidpaul123** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:54 am

"We have the best AD and the best football coach we could possibly expect given our circumstances"

well said.

abezontar · Post by **abezontar** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:54 am

George S. Patton wrote:
gostangs wrote:I'm sure Orsini and Gerald Ford are wringing their hands daily over the potential loss of your donations. Most big time donors spend lots of time on message boards posting useless filibusters.

Some of you folks need to get over yourselves.

We have the best AD and the best football coach we could possibly expect given our circumstances. Lets just stay out the way and let them do their job. If you disagree - dont renew your tickets or send your whopping 200 bucks - but don't beat down the rest of us with your narcissism.
So I guess you're OK with another 2-10 season. Ok, you just go along to get along.

2-10 is better than 1-11

2112 · Post by **2112** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:55 am

gostangs wrote:I'm sure Orsini and Gerald Ford are wringing their hands daily over the potential loss of your donations. Most big time donors spend lots of time on message boards posting useless filibusters.

Some of you folks need to get over yourselves.

We have the best AD and the best football coach we could possibly expect given our circumstances. Lets just stay out the way and let them do their job. If you disagree - dont renew your tickets or send your whopping 200 bucks - but don't beat down the rest of us with your narcissism.

what tha hell...would king schmo do all day

Billy Joe · Post by **Billy Joe** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:40 am

Remember folks, if you ignore a dog it will eventually go away.

Blvd_Stang · Post by **Blvd_Stang** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:39 pm

I think we can all agree that we can sign more highly touted recruits. With that said I think it's unfair to judge the effectiveness of a recruit before he even hits the college field. Also, if anyone were to take the time and look at Hawaii's commitments since 2002, almost all of them are two stars. I don't think JJ cares about scout's stars I think he cares about his own evaluations. Does his evaluation hold credibility? I think a 75-41 record, six bowl wins and a Coach of the Year Award with mostly two star recruits shows he can evaluate talent. Also if you look at JJ's classes most of the "big recruits" are Juco's. We're starting to see this: Frazier, Clark, Mcneal, Possible new DT...Let's wait two years when the team is mainly JJ recruits and see whose complaining. We all want wins, but to throw JJ under the bus and assume his recruits are of low quality is insulting given his credentials and history. Please reference Hawaii's commitments and juxtapose that with JJ's record.

http://hawaii.scout.com/a.z?s=219&p=9&c=8&yr=2003