June Jones Ability to Evaluate Talent

RednBlue11 · Post by **RednBlue11** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:26 pm

mrydel wrote:
San Antonio Mustang wrote:I am on your side on this Dawn. I got your point.

Did that just Dwan on you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STB4s7Qhf40

Dwan · Post by **Dwan** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:08 pm

USC has now offered him

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:14 pm

Something else of interest will be how well Bryce Petty (Baylor) and Drew Allen (Oklahoma) do compared to Padron...both came out and said they'd be interested in playing for June Jones (before they got many other offers (Petty was after he got "de-committed" by Tennessee)). We were in contact with both but never offered - both obviously ended up getting great offers. Jones was sold on Padron over both of these guys

SMU21TCU10 · Post by **SMU21TCU10** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:14 am

Alaric wrote:Something else of interest will be how well Bryce Petty (Baylor) and Drew Allen (Oklahoma) do compared to Padron...both came out and said they'd be interested in playing for June Jones (before they got many other offers (Petty was after he got "de-committed" by Tennessee)). We were in contact with both but never offered - both obviously ended up getting great offers. Jones was sold on Padron over both of these guys

i talked to someone who knows Drew and heard that the Allen's really wanted an smu offer and that he wanted to come here. hope june knows what he is doing. the only thing about padron's video is that he really seems to zero in on one receiver!

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:50 am

SMU21TCU10 wrote:
Alaric wrote:Something else of interest will be how well Bryce Petty (Baylor) and Drew Allen (Oklahoma) do compared to Padron...both came out and said they'd be interested in playing for June Jones (before they got many other offers (Petty was after he got "de-committed" by Tennessee)). We were in contact with both but never offered - both obviously ended up getting great offers. Jones was sold on Padron over both of these guys
i talked to someone who knows Drew and heard that the Allen's really wanted an smu offer and that he wanted to come here. hope june knows what he is doing. the only thing about padron's video is that he really seems to zero in on one receiver!

yea, I heard Drew wanted to come here too. choosing Padron over Drew will be an interesting test of JJs evaluation. I think JJ's biggest quality he looks for in a high school qb is accuracy. he might have thought drew could read but wasn't accurate enough and wouldn't become so

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:44 am

There were 11 Rivals recruiting reports and 5 Scout Reports between the approximate date Padron committed to SMU and Allen LAST said he had any interest in SMU and Allen blew up to be one of the top recruits in Texas after an April combine. Considering the talent SMU (doesn't) have at QB how can you legitimately claim SMU didn't want Allen. I think its just as likely Allen moved on to bigger and better opportunities like most top prospects SMU recruits. Then SMU decided to offer Padron a couple of weeks AFTER SMU's camp. By the date Padron was offered by SMU, Drew Allen had at least 10 offers including mostly BCS schools. SMU may not have offered Allen-hell they probably couldn't get him on the phone he was so busy traveling across the country getting offer after offer. I think some of you are pretty selective in the facts yhou want to hear.

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:25 pm

Stallion wrote:There were 11 Rivals recruiting reports and 5 Scout Reports between the approximate date Padron committed to SMU and Allen LAST said he had any interest in SMU and Allen blew up to be one of the top recruits in Texas after an April combine. Considering the talent SMU (doesn't) have at QB how can you legitimately claim SMU didn't want Allen. I think its just as likely Allen moved on to bigger and better opportunities like most top prospects SMU recruits. Then SMU decided to offer Padron a couple of weeks AFTER SMU's camp. By the date Padron was offered by SMU, Drew Allen had at least 10 offers including mostly BCS schools. SMU may not have offered Allen-hell they probably couldn't get him on the phone he was so busy traveling across the country getting offer after offer. I think some of you are pretty selective in the facts yhou want to hear.

You're very selective in using specific information to try and make your point.

Drew Allen made comments that he wanted to go to SMU BEFORE others were interested but was saying he had NOT been offered. Don't you think JJ would have offered had he been enamored with Allen?

Petty made similar comments. Both were in contact with SMU staff but didn't receive offers. The date Padron was offered seems fairly inconsequential - during that time period, Scotty Young and then Jesse Scroggins were JJ's first targets. Padron may have been a backup plan but not for Allen.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:37 pm

SMU wasn't the first to offer and yes he did say he was interested in SMU while fishing for his first few decent offers. But the quality offers poured in between the time he made those comments and Padron was offered and committed. The Reason: He was rated at the Top QB at a major National combine. I bet I can point to 10-15 guys in 2010 that made the same glowing reports about SMU but then went in other directions when they got the offers they wanted. Think you are the one jumping to conclusions that SMU didn't want Allen. Petty is a totally different deal-he was off the board for about 8 months, was injured, had a pretty mediocre season when he did play and came back into the recruiting race when most top QBs had already committed. There is a common theme running through this thread-recruits like Scroggins, Julian Wilson and Allen who perform off the charts at major camps "blow-up" into National recruits when they perform well. All went from a handful of offers to about 10+ offers soon thereafter.

Alaric · Post by **Alaric** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:05 pm

Stallion wrote:SMU wasn't the first to offer and yes he did say he was interested in SMU while fishing for his first few decent offers. But the quality offers poured in between the time he made those comments and Padron was offered and committed. The Reason: He was rated at the Top QB at a major National combine. I bet I can point to 10-15 guys in 2010 that made the same glowing reports about SMU but then went in other directions when they got the offers they wanted. Think you are the one jumping to conclusions that SMU didn't want Allen. Petty is a totally different deal-he was off the board for about 8 months, was injured, had a pretty mediocre season when he did play and came back into the recruiting race when most top QBs had already committed. There is a common theme running through this thread-recruits like Scroggins, Julian Wilson and Allen who perform off the charts at major camps "blow-up" into National recruits when they perform well. All went from a handful of offers to about 10+ offers soon thereafter.

Stallion, do you realize we never offered Allen? I know all about Petty and no, we didn't offer him either though we were in touch with both guys which does show some interest on our parts in them, just not enough to offer.

SMU21TCU10 · Post by **SMU21TCU10** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:32 pm

Stallion wrote:SMU wasn't the first to offer and yes he did say he was interested in SMU while fishing for his first few decent offers. But the quality offers poured in between the time he made those comments and Padron was offered and committed. The Reason: He was rated at the Top QB at a major National combine. I bet I can point to 10-15 guys in 2010 that made the same glowing reports about SMU but then went in other directions when they got the offers they wanted. Think you are the one jumping to conclusions that SMU didn't want Allen. Petty is a totally different deal-he was off the board for about 8 months, was injured, had a pretty mediocre season when he did play and came back into the recruiting race when most top QBs had already committed. There is a common theme running through this thread-recruits like Scroggins, Julian Wilson and Allen who perform off the charts at major camps "blow-up" into National recruits when they perform well. All went from a handful of offers to about 10+ offers soon thereafter.

maybe you did not see my post that someone i talked to said that drew and his dad told him that they were really wanting an smu offer..

San Antonio Mustang · Post by **San Antonio Mustang** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:42 pm

Stallion, are you arguing that Jones did not offer because he recognized that these two QBs would get and accept BCS offers?

PerunaPunch · Post by **PerunaPunch** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:47 pm

Stallion provides a lot of value to this board through his enthusiasm and research. However, he almost invariably sides with the recruiting rags over first- and second-hand information.

Me personally? If some recruit's mom or dad tells me something (sure, there may be an ulterior motive), I tend to give that at least as much credence as the recruiting rags.

orangejulay · Post by **orangejulay** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:30 pm

I hope you should put much attention in your law practice....

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Cadillac · Post by **Cadillac** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:09 pm

orangejulay wrote:I hope you should put much attention in your law practice....

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On the other hand, you might consider putting a little more attention into your sentence structure. As I understand it, communication is key to a successful legal practice.

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mrydel · Post by **mrydel** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 9:34 pm

Why do California Oranges need a County Lawyer anyway?