5-4

[orguy]

To compare what Tulsa did at Norman to what we did against one of the worst division 1 teams in the nation is absurd. The speed of the OU defense is unreal, a different level of play. Not at all a fair comparison.

Houston is looking mighty good. Yeah, Ok state was not a top five team but they are easily a top 20 team and the cougs made em look bad. Certainly no other CUSA team would have knocked them off in Stillwater (maybe Southern Miss since Fedora used to coach there)

I think Houston has the greatest chance to bust the BCS. They have quite a bit tougher schedule than Boise St. This would bode well for our conference btw.

[Longtime]

If you're an SMU, you cannot bank on getting to a bowl at 6-6. There are too many variables such as the number of CUSA bowl slots and the number of seven-win teams to choose from. And then there's the fact that SMU, with a tiny fan base, is not going to be popular with the bowls no matter the record.

Big 12 teams can count on a bowl at 6-6 because they have so many bowl slots and they all have bigger fan bases. SMU needs to be thinking 7-5.

[Stallion]

surprising stst- I read yesterday Southern Miss is on an 8 game winning streak-so Fedora after a slow start seems to be putting it together

[CalallenStang]

If you're an SMU, you cannot bank on getting to a bowl at 6-6. There are too many variables such as the number of CUSA bowl slots and the number of seven-win teams to choose from. And then there's the fact that SMU, with a tiny fan base, is not going to be popular with the bowls no matter the record.

Again, it is a documented fact that the Hawaii Bowl prefers SMU to any other team.

[Nacho]

we go 5-7 so no bo-wl. marshall and utep can beat us on a good day. if so 3-9. if we go 6-6 we have to beat ecu. not going to happen.

[CalallenStang]

we go 5-7 so no bo-wl. marshall and utep can beat us on a good day. if so 3-9. if we go 6-6 we have to beat ecu. not going to happen.

Marshall and UTEP can beat us on a good day? Have you been following their seasons? Both of their fanbases are about ready to fire their coaches.

[Stallion]

the fact is that 6-6 does not guarantee us a bowl just like it didn't guarantee us a bowl in 2007. In fact, it doesn't guarantee a bowl EVEN if the Hawaii bowl wanted us.

[CalallenStang]

the fact is that 6-6 does not guarantee us a bowl just like it didn't guarantee us a bowl in 2007. In fact, it doesn't guarantee a bowl EVEN if the Hawaii bowl wanted us.

I realize this, but if you looked at all of my posts on this thread - including a break down of all of the CUSA teams with realistic shots at being bowl eligible - you will see why I believe that we have a better chance at going bowling at 6-6 than we had in 2006.

[Stallion]

I agree with Nacho, UTEP and Marshall can beat SMU even maybe not on a good day. I think SMU has a decent shot. UTEP ain't bad-there an average CUSA team with a very good QB and two decent WRs. More athletic than in past on defense too. Marshall is a road game and SMU's road record is abysmal.

[CalallenStang]

I agree with Nacho, UTEP and Marshall can beat SMU even maybe not on a good day. I think SMU has a decent shot. UTEP ain't bad-there an average CUSA team with a very good QB and two decent WRs. More athletic than in past on defense too. Marshall is a road game and SMU's road record is abysmal.

I am counting Marshall as a loss for us, simply because the weather will probably not be good when we are there. I think Mike Price's team is going to quit on him. They are going to be 1-4 in two weeks. There is a lot of doubt in El Paso about whether or not Price is the right guy for the job. The situation is similar to ours in 2007.

[Stallion]

Those UTEP fans that think UTEP is a conference contender are idiots. UTEP main problem which has always been its main problem is isolation in West Texas where there are no more than 8-10 football players within 200 miles. Mike Price was at least able to tap transfer sources and JUCO contacts to make them competitive. UTEP has never been a consistent conference competitor in its entire football history. Lack of area talent.

[CalallenStang]

Those UTEP fans that think UTEP is a conference contender are idiots. UTEP main problem which has always been its main problem is isolation in West Texas where there are no more than 8-10 football players within 200 miles. Mike Price was at least able to tap transfer sources and JUCO contacts to make them competitive. UTEP has never been a consistent conference competitor in its entire football history. Lack of area talent.

I completely agree with you, but you know as well as I do that fan bases with unrealistic expectations for their program have fired coaches before.

[jtstang]

Again, it is a documented fact that the Hawaii Bowl prefers SMU to any other team.

Is it? Where is that fact documented?

[CalallenStang]

Again, it is a documented fact that the Hawaii Bowl prefers SMU to any other team.

Is it? Where is that fact documented?

Posted the article a week or two ago. I think it was in the Huntington, WV newspaper.

[CalallenStang]

Here you go, jtstang. I was wrong - it was in the Charleston, WV newspaper.

http://wvgazette.com/Sports/Marshall/200907311036

That game calls for a "preferred selection team" from C-USA to play a team from the Western Athletic Conference. The WAC team will be Hawaii, if eligible, and the C-USA team may be the next selection after the Liberty Bowl team is picked. One caveat: Early reports from Honolulu indicate that Hawaii Bowl officials want June Jones-coached Southern Methodist