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Postby SMUstang » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:21 am

Come on guys, be realistic. We had more success with the Run and Shoot offense under Tom Rossely than we have now. And we had major recruiting restrictions then. We were at least competitive with some big name schools. Wisconsin, UCLA, North Carolina, Texas A&M, etc. Now we struggle to win against Div. 1-AA schools.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Dooby » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:23 am

nonsense
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby SMUstang » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:24 am

Dooby wrote:nonsense

Go ahead and stick your head in the sand then.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Dooby » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:34 am

Well, your post is fundamentally F'ing stupid. What is your point? Fire June after 16 games?

For the record, SMU started using the run in shoot with Rossley in 1989. SMU won two games that year, both against 1-AA teams. Beat Uconn by 1 point and NTSU by 26. The nest season, SMU won only one game, to a 1-10 Vanderbilt team. The next season, SMU won only one game, to 1-10 Tulane. SO through three seasons, SMU won four games. SMU is going to win more games than that this season.

People forget that Rossley had two 5-6 seasons. The first was with a team filled with four year starters on both offense and defense, probably the most experienced team in the country. SMU did not beat a team witha winning record. The second, was when he drubbed a bunch of WAC teams with bottom rung SWC talent, and even then only had a .500 record in the WAC adn beat only one team with a winning record.

So, first of all, you are wrong. Second of all, even if you were right, your conclusion is stupid.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby RGV Pony » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:37 am

you know...SMUstang's point warrants discussion. Someone with time and inclination, pull up the stats and w/l for the first 16 games with Rossley and let's look at them side by side with JJ's first 16. What were Romo & Freiberger's stats in HS, and how did they do in college from the get-go?
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Stallion » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:39 am

Well I know Freiburger's Stats in High School 0-0-0 0
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby RGV Pony » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:40 am

Stallion wrote:Well I know Freiburger's Stats in High School 0-0-0 0


good point. so....shouldn't he have had a steeper learning curve than BLM?
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Dooby » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:42 am

In year one under the Rossley R&S, SMU scored in the 30's twice (both wins).
In year two under the Rossley R&S, SMU scored in the 40's once (win) and never in the 30's.
In year three under the Rossley R&S, SMU scored in the 30's once (win).
In year four under the Rossley R&S, SMU scored in the 40's once (win) and never in the 30's.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby lwedge » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:43 am

The R&S is fine.

BLM will have a good game and a few breaks will go our way in the next 4 weeks and we will be on our way.

Give the OL a little time as well. Young in some spots, but very solid.

We have a chance to win at least 4 more games and THAT would be fine with me.

As I have noted in previous texts, there is a lot of talent in the freshmen and redshirt groups. Some of whom aren't playing and some who are not on scholarship yet.

JJ knows what he is doing in building the core of the team. We have as much NFL coaching talent as anyone and it will show.

But not after 4 games or two years. It will be the end of this year and the middle of next when the corner is turned.

Mark it down. By that time, the students will start staying past the opening kickoff.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Stallion » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:43 am

he redshirted and sat on the bench for most of 3 years
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Dooby » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:49 am

More:

Rossley Year 1: 17 points per game
Rossley Year 2:17.9 points per game
Rossley Year 3:12.8 points per game
Rossley Year 4:19.2 points per game
Rossley Year 5:18.7 points per game
Rossley Year 6:17.9 points per game
Rossley Year 7:12 points per game
Rossley Year 8: 22.36 points per game

June Jones Year 1: 21.3 points per game.
June Jones Year 2: 26.75 points per game (through 4 games).

So June's first year with the R&S is better than all but one of Rossley's years with the R&S.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby RGV Pony » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:53 am

thank you Dooby for doing the work. Now, moving to more QB discussion...Romo pre-1991..

The sophomore Romo tied an NCAA record with 35 plays in the fourth quarter. He shares the record with Chris Rowland of Washington, who had 35 plays in the fourth quarter against California in 1973. He also set an NCAA record for the most completions in a quarter when he completed 21 of 31 passes for 203 yards and 2 touchdowns in the final quarter. The previous record was held by Ben Bennett of Duke, who had 20 against Navy in 1982.

By the end of the game, Romo had broken his own SMU record with 40 pass completions on 62 attempts, plus four touchdowns. He also fell one yard short of his school record with 449 passing yards. He shattered a Southwest Conference record by attempting 114 consecutive passes without an interception. The old record was 99 by David Rascoe of TCU in 1988.

Romo ended his career at SMU ranked in the top three of every major passing statistical category in school history. His 40 completions at Rice were only a portion of his career total of 601, ranking him second behind Chuck Hixson. He also has six of the twenty best passing days by a Mustang quarterback. It is noteworthy that every one of those games occurred in either 1989 or 1990
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Dooby » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:56 am

BTW, June Jones' first season was the 5th best offensive season at SMU post DP.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby SMUstang » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:20 am

I used to be one of the biggest Sunshiners on this board. But I quit drinking the coolaid. How many people on this board would not rather have a Mike Romo or a Ramon Flanagan than BLM? Be honest.
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Re: Run and Shoot

Postby Dooby » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:22 am

SMUstang wrote:I used to be one of the biggest Sunshiners on this board. But I quit drinking the coolaid. How many people on this board would not rather have a Mike Romo or a Ramon Flanagan than BLM? Be honest.


Unfortunately, they used up all their eligibility. I would also rather have a Senior Mike Romo or triple redshirt Senior Ramon Flanigan than Braden Smith or an 18 year old Padron, too.
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