The Capital: Uplifting experience underway at SMU

[dcpony]

According to this article Coach Jones says SMU is "two recruiting classes away from where we need to be."

Anyway, it's a decent read.

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Uplifting experience underway at SMU
Mustangs progressing rapidly under Jones' direction
By BILL WAGNER, Staff Writer
Published 10/16/09

It appeared head coach June Jones had a major rebuilding effort on his hands after SMU went 1-11 in his first season at the helm. However, the Mustangs have surprised observers by opening the 2009 campaign with a 3-2 record that included an uplifting upset of East Carolina last Saturday.



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[az1]

Thanks.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

According to this article Coach Jones says SMU is "two recruiting classes away from where we need to be."

yep and according to Stallion we just beat a team that had "bigger" athletes and of course ECU has faster athletes and more depth.....um so I guess it was coaching......but did you hear Stallion say a word about June Jones? No he'd rather talk horses....but boy if it had been a loss, Stallion talks less horse and more "we suck".

[smuuth]

He is just trying to buy a little time with the media that he may not need. When you are optimistic and then have a bad year the press pull out their notebooks full of quotes from the preseason. That is why many coaches always give the "woe is me" speech before the season. I think they expect to win now....it is just a question of how much! Bowl invite, conference championships, perennial top 25 rankings,bcs bowl busters, national champions!

[Ponyx2]

"Head coach: June Jones, 2nd season (14-13)"

Looks like we're in for a long winning streak.

[Stallion]

Nice straw-man argument-I'm just 1 of a vast 80% majority on the Peruna issue-but you can reduce it to its all Stallion's fault. Weaksauce-20% er. Shows you really don't want to make a rational argument in favor of the Two Donkeys.

"recruit strong for at least 3 years and count to 3-4 from the first strong recruiting class". I think June Jones is saying something similiar to what I've always said. The distinction is that while I think the last recruiting class was a "step in the right direction" I don't think its a class they can really compete with the TCU's Techs and probably not even the Baylors of the world and maybe have a Top 50 ballclub that can compete for national honors. The two future classes are uncertain. Now if you are talking about beating up on Rice, Tulane, UTEP, UAB, Memphis etc mixed in with some bottom of the barrell D1A schools and a few D1AA schools then we are right on course. Never denied SMU could go to do to go to a bowl in CUSA like the Rice program has. But Rice hasn't built a consistently strong program, going something like 7-6, 3-9, 10-3 and possibly 0-12 this year. These days all you have to is go 5-6 against 5 bad teams in Division 1A and beat the yearly D1AA sacrificial lamb and you get to go to the Weed Eater Bowl. That's not the kinda of program I'm talking about. My expectations are in line with the stated goal of the program-competing for conference championships and Top 25

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

I'm just 1 of a vast 80% majority on the Peruna issue

And counselor what do you base that phony logic on?

A few loud blowhards on a message board?

An unscientific poll done by the school newspaper?

Plus a large part of the whole opposition scenario is a big lie
but thats what people with weak arguments do
create lies - foment lies - to bolster weak cases
the big lie that "Peruna is going away" that can not be sourced
not a single verifiable official source...NADA-ZERO-NONE
"ah well so & so said"..."well an assist coach told me"...."i read somewhere"
it's pronounced "HORSE-SHEET"....capiche?

but i'm sure you'll have your little fan club come
racing to your defense...probably starting with
"I'd rather be at a USC game but daughter goes to SMU".

Again Stallion...if the team sucks, the admin sucks,
the decisions of the AD/President/Ect suck...
the gameday sucks..the recruits suck..if everything sucks
why are you here?

[Stallion]

the team sucks -I predicted the exact number of wins you predicted [deleted],

the decisions of the AD/President/Ect suck..-I haven't critized the Academic Model in 2 years since they finally realized how stupid they were. My argument = June Jones' argument-we won. As for this idiotic Peruna issue-your a 20%er. You ought to be [deleted] ashamed of yourself for trashing an 80 year tradition-traitor.

the gameday sucks..-I rarely post anything out of line about game day presentation except for the speakers. Not in the Top 50 negative posters about this

the recruits suck-I said the last class 2009 was a step in the right direction-I don't think the 2008 Class is very strong. I'll stand by those statements just like I have behind my other recruit analysis over the last 20 years when they generally proved correct. Do you have any knowledge of recruiting to contest a thing I've said. See the Recruiting board-I have posted more positive news on each and every SMU recruits than the rest of the entire board put together. I highlited players like Darius Johnson, Jagared Davis Jeremy Johnson, Aron Franklin, Uchenna Nwabuike, Brandon Thornton even though those players weren't even 3 star recruits when I was praising them. There are many more.

Bo Levi Mitchell sucks-I'm one of the few that wasn't running around hysterically calling for Padron or Smith to play. I have stated unequivocally that Mitchell should be the starter for the entire year and Padron should redshirt. Why? because playing a project freshman without any experience is a recipe for disaster. See Bo Levi in 2008. I was right there too. Not among the Top 50 negative posters on Bo Levi this year. I promised I would give him a fair analysis in 2009 and I have. I even praised him against Washington St. before he threw 4 Interceptions. Others panicked-I stood behind him. In 2008 I emphasized that the criticism was directed at coaching decision and I pretty well expected him to fail just like he did-so he should be reevaluated in 2009

If you had any integrity you wouldn't use me as a straw-man in every single post and actually fashion an articulate argument in support of the reasons you believe differently on the issues. But you can't because you show each day that you have limited actual knowledge of football. I understand that when you can't factually controvert or refute an argument due to ignorance or lack of ability to articulate then about all you can do is create a strawman. All you've done is create your own argument(that everything sucks) and assign all those points to me. Weak

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Nice dodge Stallion....

Again

you stated.....

"I'm just 1 of a vast 80% majority on the Peruna issue"

And counselor what do you base that statement of fact....phony logic on?

A few loud blowhards on a message board?

An unscientific poll done by the school newspaper?

More blowhard BS because you wanna believe something?

making a statement of fact like you did but can't back it up is dat what
ya call dat fancy smancy "can't factually CONTRO-VERT or refute an argument
due to ignorance"?

[Stallion]

well we know your pulling it out your ass-you've got abslutely no evidence to refute the point-20%er. I've got evidence from the two main SMU communities-the Daily Campus and ponyfans.

Look I can't believe I actually got to articulate for you and little Cheerleader friends the argument you SHOULD BE making daily and so rarely do. Your ignorant, unsupported, inarticulate posts bitchin' about nagative posters talking about things in the past don't serve your purpose. WHY? Because they are all TRUE. SMU had the most unsuccessful Division 1A program in America for 2 decades and SMU's own Academic Model was the prime reason. SMU deserves all the critism it gets for that dismal record. TURN THE ARGUMENT AROUND. Admit that SMU's program was the worst Division 1A program for 20 years. Come out an admit SMU's athletic program SUCKED for 20 years, Here's the key-the old Academic Model is gone and June Jones now admits recruits based upon mimimum NCAA admission standards. Cheerleaders should never ever attack anyone for anything that happened in the past-you'll lose that argument.


Here is the argument Cheerleaders should be making-get a pen.

Stallion the points you have made for decades about the Academic Model are absolutely correct. SMU ,as proved by June Jones's own recruiting classes needed to admit each of the 8 or so categories of players you have identified in order to allow SMU to compete on an even playing field with its natural and traditional rivals. Finally, SMU got it right in about 2008 when negotiating a contract with June Jones to commit to an Academic Model which allows SMU to basically admit just about all recruits who can be admitted under NCAA minimum admission standards.(Turner used words to this affect). June Jones' classes (and Doherty's classes) prove that all of these kids are being admitted into SMU. Problem solved.

A football program consists of 5 different classes-5th Year Seniors, Seniors, Juniors, Sophomores and Freshman. Therefore, in order to see the FULL benefits and fruition resulting in the changes in the Academic Model you would want at least allow a new Coach to recruit those 5 classes. There is general consensous that to rebuld a strong program from the bottom you need at least 3 straight years of strong recruiting classes(both Stallion and June Jones are in agreement since June said SMU needs two more recruiting classes). Stallion adds that you count to 3-4 after the first strong class. June Jones only had about 3 weeks to recruit his first recruiting class so it might be a little unfair to expect that class to make a big difference. As June Jones says he needs 2 more good recruiting classes to rebuild the program.

Therefore, combining the JuneJones/ Stallion formulas if you count to 3 from the 2009 recruiting class then SMU s should become a competitive strong program by 2011 with even more improvement likely as the FULL benefits and fruition of the changes to the Academic Model are realized as each successive 5 classes of recruits pass through the university by 2013.

Forget the miracle bit forget the predictions of Championships and victories over TCU, Tech, A&M, Baylor, UH in coming years-miracles only happen in fairy tales and when they don't come true you lose credibility. Programs are built by recruiting players-concede June couldn't even beat a D1A team without players as he proved in 2008. Lower the public expectations and trumpet the unexpected successe but by all means concede that it ain't going to happen overnite(its called buying time).

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

"well we know your pulling it out your [deleted]"

Is that one of your "well articulated" arguments?
LOL..dude you're a joke.
Are you going to post my name and line of work next?

"you've got abslutely no evidence to refute the point-20%er.
I've got evidence from the two main SMU communities-the Daily Campus and ponyfans"

I didn't make the statement...you did.
PonyFans?...that's your "solid evidence"?....LOL
Yeah sure...a handful of message board blowhards on
PonyFans is a real true and accurate reading of exact polling data!
Oh and an on-line unscientific poll in a student newspaper too!
Boy ya got some real credible evidence there Mr. Attorney!

Long as you're on a roll...any "evidence"..."Peruna is going away"?

"Your ignorant, unsupported, inarticulate posts"

Speaking of unsupported....
Still waiting for a credible polling source for your 81%.
I cant hear you???????????
PonyFans?....LOL
Yeah sure Stallion.

"bitchin' about nagative posters talking about things in the
past don't serve your purpose. WHY? Because they are all true"

What?...Like your negative post about "June Jones isn't coming here"?
"Why would he?"....was that true Stallion?....How did that negative statement work out for ya?


"Stallion the points you have made for decades about the Academic Model are absolutely correct.

Stallion the points you made for decades about the Academic Model are absolutely all known by pretty much everyone already so it was like you were making statements like "Listen up everybody I am sooooooo smart because 2+2=4"....well hello... duh!

"Finally, SMU got it right in about 2008 when negotiating a contract with June Jones to commit to an Academic Model which allows SMU to basically admit just about all recruits who can be admitted under NCAA minimum admission standards.(Turner used words to this affect)"

More "2+2=4...look how smart I am"?
It's pretty much all over ESPN then and now that "SMU got it right" with this hire
and obvious that June Jones would not accept a job where he was only limited to
recruiting Albert Einsteins.

Therefore, combining the JuneJones/ Stallion formulas

LOL....narcissistic personality disorder strikes again!


Forget the miracle bit-miracles happen in fairy tales and when they don't come true you lose credibility.

The only Fairy Tale is your delusion that you deserve any credit for the accomplisments of a coach that you claimed would not come here and was not even on your choice of coaches for SMU.

[gostangs]

Anyone else find this boring? If you want to have a catfight go have it somewhere else. Its immature. What a couple of 7th grade girls.

We have a football game to talk about.