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TCU in the National Championship?

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:50 am

I am not well versed in the way the bowl match-ups play out....can somebody help?

Is it extremely far fetched or even possible to think?....

TCU vs. Texas in the National Championship Game?
If so...I think TCU would stand a chance of beating Texas at a neutral site.

or

Is there anyway that a National Championship game could be TCU vs. Boise State?
Would they not allow such to happen?

Is it possible the way the schedule plays out the rest of the year with with teams ranked above TCU either playing each other or playing very difficult games that TCU has a pretty fair chance of being in the National Championship Game?
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby SMU_is_bowling » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:22 am

Will the BCS or any of the SEC Big XII pundits let this happen????
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:33 am

i am doubtful the powers would allow it....

but heck what if Okie State upsets Texas this weekend...
(watch the refs this weekend make sure that doesnt happen)

and/or say LSU beats Alabama or what if Alabama plays Florida in the SEC Championship?

TCU might be in the freaking National Championship Game!

It would be funny watching the BCS squirm....especially if TCU won it!
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby Terry Webster » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:03 pm

I think that only one team from outside the power conferences will be 'slotted' for the bcs. In things were fair, TCU, BSU and Cincinnati should all be in the top 8, but I would take a lot for that to happen.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby Mestengo » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:05 pm

No way.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby expony18 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:27 pm

last night ESPN was discussing the possibility of Boise v. TCU in the national championship.... can you imagine the ratings :roll:
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby huskerpony » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:31 pm

Not impossible, but a real long shot. It would take a lot of losses from other teams.

The winner of the SEC or Big XII would have to have 2 or more losses, Iowa and Cincy would have to lose, USC, Iowa, Penn State, and Ga Tech would all probably need to lose as well.

Although, if a number of those things happen, and it becomes a close call, it would be a tremendous way for them to fend off the BCS lawsuits and maintain the system.

Boise v TCU can't happen because the BCS is only required to take 1 non-AQ team.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby SmooBoy » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:05 pm

Why not have the froggies pee in the BCS rice krispies. I'm all for it.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby The PonyGrad » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:26 pm

Terry Webster wrote:I think that only one team from outside the power conferences will be 'slotted' for the bcs. In things were fair, TCU, BSU and Cincinnati should all be in the top 8, but I would take a lot for that to happen.

Not sure what you are implying but Cincinnati is in the Big East, an AQ conference.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby The PonyGrad » Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:43 pm

Hate to burn post 2000 on TCU stuff but...
Every team ahead of TCU in the BCS has at least one tough game, not counting conference championship games.
USC @ #10 Oregon
Texas @ #13 Ok. St.
Iowa has Ohio St. (#17)
Bama has #9 LSU
Florida @ #22 S. Carolina
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby Caballo » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:41 pm

The only way that either TCU or Boise State plays in the National Championship game is if every team in an automatic qualifying conference has two losses and TCU and/or Boise State go undefeated.

If LSU wins out, they will leap frog both TCU and Boise, even though they have one loss. If Oregon wins out they will also leap frog (or leap frogs as the case may be). Even Ga. Tech has a better chance of making the NC game if everyone in front of them loses, except TCU and Boise.

The BCS is set up so that the affiliated conferences go to the national championship game. They only have to take one team from a non-automatic conference. That is all they will take this year, even if TCU and Boise go undefeated.

If Texas wins Saturday, they will go undefeated and play in the National Championship game.
It is likely that either Florida or Alabama go undefeated until the SEC championship game.

Let's hope for chaos though.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby lwedge » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:06 pm

Be assured that if USC wins Saturday at Oregon, they would be "cut in" to the big game ahead of the non AQ's, if the SEC winner is a one-loss Alabama team.

Chaos will also reign if LSU runs the table and ends up with one loss. How do you not take them over usc. They beat Washington in Seattle and would have beaten bama and florida.

However, you know the voters are aching for a UT - usc rematch in the Rose.

UT is the most certain one in, they have the easiest path.

Hope they play an SEC team, even one with a loss, in the BCS title game. Let the frogs go to a BCS game with the red-a$$ and pound on somebody.

tcu and usc in the Rose bowl. How ugly would those floats be? The uniform clashing? ugghh

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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby RGV Pony » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:50 pm

I think it's gonna be UT-Alabama.

You can bet if it's TCU they'll put them against someone in a ho-hum game so as not to create a situation where if they win they can make a case (who was it, Washington, that had the same thing happen, and laid claim to a national title?)

So I could see it being UT-Alabama champ game
Ga Tech-TCU
Florida-Cincinnati
USC-Iowa
LSU or Penn St or Michigan-Oregon

and Boise gets sh$t on.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby huskerpony » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:56 pm

Not sure what the pecking order is this year, but since Utah was in the Sugar Bowl last year, I assume any non-AQ team ends up in the Fiesta.

Orange Bowl gets ACC vs. Big East, so they wouldn't give up Cincy for TCU. (They cut a deal a couple years ago and sent WVU to the Fiesta, but that was so they could take KU.)

So unless one of the teams for the NC Game comes out of the Rose Bowl or Orange Bowl qualifiers--then I don't know what happens to the selection order--TCU would most likely go to the Fiesta Bowl if they win out.
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Re: TCU in the National Championship?

Postby EastStang » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:17 pm

The ACC, BE, SEC, Big XII, Big Ten, Pac-10 all are AQ. Only one out of Boise, UH and TCU is permitted in a BCS bowl and then only if they finish in the Top 6 or ahead of a champion an AQ league. Right now Boise has the inside track to a BCS bowl if they don't lose. TCU won't be able to pass them unless they lose. The coaches will never vote TCU and Boise 1and 2 and the other polls won't either. The skids are well greased here. Boise will be lucky to stay at number 5 even if teams ahead of them falter. So, it ain't gonna happen. It will be chosen from two of the following teams: UT, USC, LSU, Ala, Florida, Iowa and Penn State. There is one hope for TCU and that is if SMU runs the table and somehow gets into the CUSA championship game, thus raising their RPI, UVA and Clemson run the table and gets into the ACC championship game against each other (if that is even possible). Then perhaps, TCU might get a nod ahead of Boise, but still not ahead of the SEC, Pac Ten, Big Ten, Big XII.
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