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by larskjenstad » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:39 pm
George S. Patton wrote:I have to disagree. All of the flags we got were deserved except for Sterling Moore's PI call on Rice's last scoring drive. That was really bad. Other than that, I had no problem. All I know is that our OL coach pretty much aired out the line following one promising possession that blew up because of the flags.
Everybody around the country is complaining about the officials. It's not just us. Heck, Urban Meyer just got tagged for $30K for blasting the officials -- following a game that he won?
The officiating has been the worst I have seen in my lifetime, The Smoo DB's have been screwed all year with bogus PI calls. I have been to every game and its the same ol story, the phantom PI call has happened 5 times this year, all against our boys.
The whining over penalties is a national epidemic. You play through it and you deal with it and you move on.
Worst officiating I have seen in my lifetime. Confusing refs nearly every game, I have been to every game this year and there has been 5 phantom PI calls , all against our guys, yes we have made our share of mistakes but the refs have really sucked all year, specially at SMOO games
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by George S. Patton » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:39 pm
BTW, I didn't get back to my seat for the second half kickoff. Did they assess McCann's celebration penalty on our kickoff? Someone told me they didn't. If they didn't, did they forget?
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by MrMustang1965 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:44 pm
George S. Patton wrote:BTW, I didn't get back to my seat for the second half kickoff. Did they assess McCann's celebration penalty on our kickoff? Someone told me they didn't. If they didn't, did they forget?
The more important question is: what was your reason for not getting back to your seat for the second half? 
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by CA Mustang » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:49 pm
George S. Patton wrote:BTW, I didn't get back to my seat for the second half kickoff. Did they assess McCann's celebration penalty on our kickoff? Someone told me they didn't. If they didn't, did they forget?
No, they didn't. Another mistake by the refs, but why didn't Rice catch it?
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by indianmustang » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:15 pm
from rice forum As explained in the game thread unsportsmanlike penalties cannot be carried over. The only option was to tack it on to the PAT. The announcement by the crew was wrong but someone on our sidelines should have known the rule and brought it to the attention of the zebras.
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by George S. Patton » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:26 pm
No. SMU would not bring that to their attention because the flag was against McCann. It was up to the Rice coaching staff to bring that to their attention.
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by Wuba » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:34 pm
George S. Patton wrote:No. SMU would not bring that to their attention because the flag was against McCann. It was up to the Rice coaching staff to bring that to their attention.
Guess you did not see where he said it was from the Rice forum.
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by expony18 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:35 pm
Wuba wrote:George S. Patton wrote:No. SMU would not bring that to their attention because the flag was against McCann. It was up to the Rice coaching staff to bring that to their attention.
Guess you did not see where he said it was from the Rice forum.
he doesnt bother to read the fine print.
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by MrMustang1965 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:39 pm
indianmustang wrote:from rice forum As explained in the game thread unsportsmanlike penalties cannot be carried over. The only option was to tack it on to the PAT. The announcement by the crew was wrong but someone on our sidelines should have known the rule and brought it to the attention of the zebras.
My stepdaughter - who knows her football rules pretty darned well! - says that penalties cannot be assessed on PATs in college games. She cites the penalties that were assessed against the Red Raiders last year after Crabtree's reception against UT in Lubbock for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' when fans rushed the field and the team celebrated. The TT kicker had to place the ball at something like the 5 yard line for the ensuing kickoff. Point of it all is that the unsportsmanlike penalty against SMU at the end of the first half was a moot point. It could not be tacked on to the PAT nor to the kick-off at the beginning of the second half.
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by CalallenStang » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:46 pm
MrMustang1965 wrote:indianmustang wrote:from rice forum As explained in the game thread unsportsmanlike penalties cannot be carried over. The only option was to tack it on to the PAT. The announcement by the crew was wrong but someone on our sidelines should have known the rule and brought it to the attention of the zebras.
My stepdaughter - who knows her football rules pretty darned well! - says that penalties cannot be assessed on PATs in college games. She cites the penalties that were assessed against the Red Raiders last year after Crabtree's reception against UT in Lubbock for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' when fans rushed the field and the team celebrated. The TT kicker had to place the ball at something like the 5 yard line for the ensuing kickoff. Point of it all is that the unsportsmanlike penalty against SMU at the end of the first half was a moot point. It could not be tacked on to the PAT nor to the kick-off at the beginning of the second half.
Then your stepdaughter would be incorrect. It is the decision of the team not penalized (in this case, Rice) to enforce it either on the PAT or on the kickoff. As an example, last season in the BYU/Washington game, Washington was called for excessive celebration after they scored a TD. BYU chose to enforce the penalty on the extra point. They blocked the extra point. (source: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... &type=lgns)
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by MrMustang1965 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:52 pm
CalallenStang wrote:MrMustang1965 wrote:indianmustang wrote:from rice forum As explained in the game thread unsportsmanlike penalties cannot be carried over. The only option was to tack it on to the PAT. The announcement by the crew was wrong but someone on our sidelines should have known the rule and brought it to the attention of the zebras.
My stepdaughter - who knows her football rules pretty darned well! - says that penalties cannot be assessed on PATs in college games. She cites the penalties that were assessed against the Red Raiders last year after Crabtree's reception against UT in Lubbock for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' when fans rushed the field and the team celebrated. The TT kicker had to place the ball at something like the 5 yard line for the ensuing kickoff. Point of it all is that the unsportsmanlike penalty against SMU at the end of the first half was a moot point. It could not be tacked on to the PAT nor to the kick-off at the beginning of the second half.
Then your stepdaughter would be incorrect. It is the decision of the team not penalized (in this case, Rice) to enforce it either on the PAT or on the kickoff. As an example, last season in the BYU/Washington game, Washington was called for excessive celebration after they scored a TD. BYU chose to enforce the penalty on the extra point. They blocked the extra point. (source: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... &type=lgns)
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by George S. Patton » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:53 pm
Wuba wrote:George S. Patton wrote:No. SMU would not bring that to their attention because the flag was against McCann. It was up to the Rice coaching staff to bring that to their attention.
Guess you did not see where he said it was from the Rice forum.
Thanks. I did misread it. My bad.
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by CalallenStang » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:53 pm
No prob. The real issue here is that the Rice coach didn't know the rule, so they got screwed.
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by George S. Patton » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:16 am
CalallenStang wrote:No prob. The real issue here is that the Rice coach didn't know the rule, so they got screwed.
Actually, that's what I meant. I've used the eraser on my pencil many times before and I will again.
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by OC Mustang » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:41 am
I actually think the refs missed a call...the deep ball Rice threw with blown coverage happened for a reason...I saw McCann talking to a coach, and the coaches started bending the refs' ears for the next two plays afterwards.
I'm not sure, but it looked as if they were saying that the Rice receiver stepped out of bounds, which would have made him ineligible to be the first to touch the ball (he caught it un-touched). If it is true that happened, and if it is indeed that which the coaches were irked about, the refs blew a lot more than questionable calls...they missed a central part of the game.
But I might be wrong...anybody else see a replay?
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