Segregation Bowl

[SMU 86]

Yeah, I do hate TCU, but this is pretty shameful. Why not TCU/Florida? Is it subjective or do they have some formula for it? I don't know. I'm asking. Stallion?

The BCS did it so they don't run the risk of TCU and/or Boise beating a BCS school.

No they didn't. Boise beat OU a few years ago...irrelevant

They don't want that to happen again. They saw a chance not nullify that by this game and they did it. The BCS also did not like Utah upsetting Alabama last year. What happened today was a travesty to both schools.

[Phxfan]

Don't want to read more legal stuff. Separate but equal is going to the Supreme Court again re: Gay marriage.
The BCS thing will deal with monopoly. That's just my opinion.

[RunningStang]

The BCS powers that be rigged it so TCU would play Boise in the Fiesta bowl because they would have a hard time arguing against a playoff if TCU and Boise finished undefeated and in the top 3.

[huskerpony]

Yeah, I do hate TCU, but this is pretty shameful. Why not TCU/Florida? Is it subjective or do they have some formula for it? I don't know. I'm asking. Stallion?

The BCS did it so they don't run the risk of TCU and/or Boise beating a BCS school.

No, I know that's what it appears, but is there some type of formula that the BCS can hang their hat on? I suppose that if there isn't right now, they'll make one up when the questions start mounting.

There are conference tie-ins and a selection order for the at-large bids. This is why you will never see #3 vs #4 because they will already be taken by the time the second round of selections have gone through.

This year's selection order went Orange, Fiesta, Sugar--but the bowls who lose their conference tie-ins to the National Championship game get to pick first. So the picks went Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Fiesta, Sugar. (With the Orange Bowl keeping their tie-in with the ACC champ first.)

So theoretically, the Fiesta Bowl picked TCU before they were available to the Sugar Bowl.

[ponyscott]

The BCS did it so they don't run the risk of TCU and/or Boise beating a BCS school.[/quote]

No, I know that's what it appears, but is there some type of formula that the BCS can hang their hat on? I suppose that if there isn't right now, they'll make one up when the questions start mounting.[/quote]

There are conference tie-ins and a selection order for the at-large bids. This is why you will never see #3 vs #4 because they will already be taken by the time the second round of selections have gone through.

This year's selection order went Orange, Sugar, Fiesta--but the bowls who lose their conference tie-ins to the National Championship game get to pick first. So the picks went Sugar, Fiesta, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta. (With the Orange Bowl keeping their tie-in with the ACC champ first.)

So theoretically, the Fiesta Bowl picked TCU before they were available to the Sugar Bowl.[/quote]

Interesting and good post as I didn't know that was how it goes and why #3 VS #4 doesn't happen even with BCS VS BCS. Too bad though....

[SMU 86]

The BCS powers that be rigged it so TCU would play Boise in the Fiesta bowl because they would have a hard time arguing against a playoff if TCU and Boise finished undefeated and in the top 3.

Agreed, it was rigged. The BCS had their talking points out om Saturday about the game.

[ponyscott]

The BCS powers that be rigged it so TCU would play Boise in the Fiesta bowl because they would have a hard time arguing against a playoff if TCU and Boise finished undefeated and in the top 3.

Agreed, it was rigged. The BCS had their talking points out om Saturday about the game.

Doesn't sound like it was really rigged ...TCU just needed to be ranked 5th instead of 4th....

[GoRedGoBlue]

No.

Sugar picked fla
Fiesta picked bsu first... Bc bsu travels
orange took Iowa
then sugar took cincy
fiesta was left with tcu

that's how it happened

fiesta gambled that bsu was a better draw than Iowa, but risked being stuck with bsu tcu if sugar picked cincy.

The alternative would have had them take iowa , and the orange would have had the choice of bsu, cincy (who played there last year? And brought no one) or tcu.

Likely they take Boise, and then sugar had tcu/cincy. Sugar disdained for another nonAQ, so takes cincy leaving fiesta with tcu-Iowa (yawn)

so they took Boise hoping for cincy to fall past the sugar.

[Rayburn]

More like the Quarentine Bowl

Contain the virus so that it will not infect more.

[Phxfan]

No.

Sugar picked fla
Fiesta picked bsu first... Bc bsu travels
orange took Iowa
then sugar took cincy
fiesta was left with tcu

that's how it happened

fiesta gambled that bsu was a better draw than Iowa, but risked being stuck with bsu tcu if sugar picked cincy.

The alternative would have had them take iowa , and the orange would have had the choice of bsu, cincy (who played there last year? And brought no one) or tcu.

I do not think the Fiesta Bowl will sell out this season. Maybe, but I doubt it.

Likely they take Boise, and then sugar had tcu/cincy. Sugar disdained for another nonAQ, so takes cincy leaving fiesta with tcu-Iowa (yawn)

so they took Boise hoping for cincy to fall past the sugar.

[down n out]

utah destroyed Alabama last year and went undefeated

[peruna81]

and what alternative does TCU or Boise have to protest? Buy a ticket and not attend the game in AZ? (Wait a minute, that is what many of us are doing!)...

Stallion is spot on about the reference to a pertinent court case...but this is not civil/racial rights, it is about MONEY...that alone will give it legs well past a court (if the BCS/NCAA ever are taken there regarding equal application of penalties, etc) saying the format is flawed.

[SMU 86]

utah destroyed Alabama last year and went undefeated

True and now the BCS people have made it so nothing like that could happen this year. To much of an embarrassment for them again.

[Big Hoss]

No.

Sugar picked fla
Fiesta picked bsu first... Bc bsu travels
orange took Iowa
then sugar took cincy
fiesta was left with tcu

that's how it happened

fiesta gambled that bsu was a better draw than Iowa, but risked being stuck with bsu tcu if sugar picked cincy.

The alternative would have had them take iowa , and the orange would have had the choice of bsu, cincy (who played there last year? And brought no one) or tcu.

Likely they take Boise, and then sugar had tcu/cincy. Sugar disdained for another nonAQ, so takes cincy leaving fiesta with tcu-Iowa (yawn)

so they took Boise hoping for cincy to fall past the sugar.

Thanks for this. I actually asked for this specific breakdown in the TCU thread, and no one answered me. The BCS conspiracy thing is really making my head hurt. The BCS is about #1 vs. #2 and THAT'S IT! The rest is up to the individual bowls picking what teams they want based on expected revenue (ticket sales, advertising, etc.).

[RednBlue11]

still. sad that you referenced wikipedia

4 years ago i would have agreed.

but its being accepted by professors as a legit source now, they're cleaned up their act quite a bit.