w/o BLM we will not beat Nevada

[Garret]

JJ's teams always seem to need at least one game-ready backup QB. Does *anyone* actually expect Padron to go through the next 2 seasons without getting an injury? Most teams end up playing backup QBs for at least part of the season, and in JJ's offense if the backup cannot do a decent job then the team will not be able to win.

Instead of tearing down Bo, I would think that SMU fans would be happy to have an experienced backup QB. If he's the 2nd best QB next season, he'll play in at least several games if next season is a typical one. McDermott or Smith could beat him out of course, but if not then SMU fans will need to rely on Bo to bail them out...if the backup QB isn't ready to play then you can probably forget about the team reaching many of their goals.

[Samurai Stang]

Instead of tearing down Bo, I would think that SMU fans would be happy to have an experienced backup QB.

Having an experienced quarterback is not the same thing as having a good one, of which BM is proof.

In this offense a backup quarterback should be being trained for the future. BM is now the past. Give me a backup quarterback that is being trained start in the future, and not one the one that was benched.

In the end I do not even expect General Jones to be faced with the issue of naming him as a backup, as I will be surprised if BM does not transfer to another clan.

[Garret]

In the end I do not even expect General Jones to be faced with the issue of naming him as a backup, as I will be surprised if BM does not transfer to another clan.

If Bo is going to transfer, it needs to be before next season so that he can still have 2 years left to play. He also has his redshirt year available. That could be good for Bo and would free up a scholarship for SMU. However, I do *not* think that SMU is so deep at QB that they would be better off with Bo transferring. This season Hawaii ended up having to have the #4 QB start due to a series of injuries...

[Samurai Stang]

In the end I do not even expect General Jones to be faced with the issue of naming him as a backup, as I will be surprised if BM does not transfer to another clan.

If Bo is going to transfer, it needs to be before next season so that he can still have 2 years left to play. He also has his redshirt year available. That could be good for Bo and would free up a scholarship for SMU. However, I do *not* think that SMU is so deep at QB that they would be better off with Bo transferring. This season Hawaii ended up having to have the #4 QB start due to a series of injuries...

In the event of an injury at quarterback, I do not see General Jones bringing back a failed experiment. I would rather have another at the backup position. The way to prepare for the future is not by digging up the corpses of the past.

[Garret]

In the end I do not even expect General Jones to be faced with the issue of naming him as a backup, as I will be surprised if BM does not transfer to another clan.

If Bo is going to transfer, it needs to be before next season so that he can still have 2 years left to play. He also has his redshirt year available. That could be good for Bo and would free up a scholarship for SMU. However, I do *not* think that SMU is so deep at QB that they would be better off with Bo transferring. This season Hawaii ended up having to have the #4 QB start due to a series of injuries...

In the event of an injury at quarterback, I do not see General Jones bringing back a failed experiment. I would rather have another at the backup position. The way to prepare for the future is not by digging up the corpses of the past.

Tim Chang was injured and lost his starting job one season at UH, mercilessly booed by the Hawaii fans at home during the worst of his struggles. He came back for his senior season (Rolovich and Whieldon had replaced him in previous seasons but both of them were out of eligibility by then) and threw for 4258 yards and 37 TDs (with just 13 INTs), leading the team to wins over Northwestern and Michigan State to make it to the Hawaii Bowl, and leading the team to a win over UAB in the Hawaii Bowl.

JJ won't forget about that lesson and how QBs take a long time to learn his offense. I think that is much more important than some cliches that really do not always apply to football.

[ALEX LIFESON]

JJ's teams always seem to need at least one game-ready backup QB. Does *anyone* actually expect Padron to go through the next 2 seasons without getting an injury? Most teams end up playing backup QBs for at least part of the season, and in JJ's offense if the backup cannot do a decent job then the team will not be able to win.

Instead of tearing down Bo, I would think that SMU fans would be happy to have an experienced backup QB. If he's the 2nd best QB next season, he'll play in at least several games if next season is a typical one. McDermott or Smith could beat him out of course, but if not then SMU fans will need to rely on Bo to bail them out...if the backup QB isn't ready to play then you can probably forget about the team reaching many of their goals.

Your are correct!

[Samurai Stang]

Tim Chang was injured and lost his starting job one season at UH, mercilessly booed by the Hawaii fans at home during the worst of his struggles. He came back for his senior season (Rolovich and Whieldon had replaced him in previous seasons but both of them were out of eligibility by then) and threw for 4258 yards and 37 TDs (with just 13 INTs), leading the team to wins over Northwestern and Michigan State to make it to the Hawaii Bowl, and leading the team to a win over UAB in the Hawaii Bowl.

JJ won't forget about that lesson and how QBs take a long time to learn his offense. I think that is much more important than some cliches that really do not always apply to football.

If you actually think BM is the next Timmy Chang then perhaps you should call for the benching of Padron at this moment. But you will not call for the benching of Padron, because Padron is Padron, while BM is, and will remain, BM. You know this, and for all of the wishful thinking you might conjure, reality is on my side.

[gostangs]

Padron is the better option - but we may very well need Bo. Dont forget we were showing vast improvement even before the QB change. So I totally agree with Stallion - lets be happy we have some choices - you can't have too many expereinced qb's ready to come in and prove themselves. Saying Bo will never be able to do that is just dumb.

[Samurai Stang]

Padron is the better option - but we may very well need Bo. Dont forget we were showing vast improvement even before the QB change. So I totally agree with Stallion - lets be happy we have some choices - you can't have too many expereinced qb's ready to come in and prove themselves. Saying Bo will never be able to do that is just dumb.

I base my stance on empirical evidence. You base your stance on hope and feel-good nonsense. One of those arguments sounds "dumb," but it is not the one you seem to think it is.

[Alaric]

In the end I do not even expect General Jones to be faced with the issue of naming him as a backup, as I will be surprised if BM does not transfer to another clan.

If Bo is going to transfer, it needs to be before next season so that he can still have 2 years left to play. He also has his redshirt year available. That could be good for Bo and would free up a scholarship for SMU. However, I do *not* think that SMU is so deep at QB that they would be better off with Bo transferring. This season Hawaii ended up having to have the #4 QB start due to a series of injuries...

In the event of an injury at quarterback, I do not see General Jones bringing back a failed experiment. I would rather have another at the backup position. The way to prepare for the future is not by digging up the corpses of the past.

Samurai Stang, if Padron gets hurt and BLM represents the best chance to win next year, would you sacrifice honor and glory in battle in order to develop a future qb or would you use BLM as a stopgap in order to win and worry about developing a qb later?

[Samurai Stang]

Samurai Stang, if Padron gets hurt and BLM represents the best chance to win next year, would you sacrifice honor and glory in battle in order to develop a future qb or would you use BLM as a stopgap in order to win and worry about developing a qb later?

If I wanted to win, I would not play BM. He has clearly demonstrated an inability to win when under pressure. McDermott will be eligible next year, and given that he will enter as a junior there would be no sacrifice for the future.

[gostangs]

Under Bo we beat the current conference champ. Padron is clearly better - but I'm guessing the more experienced replacement will be bo, not the new guy. And I am basing that on imperical evidence - not your emotional "hope" that the new guy wil be better then the guy that got us several wins (UAB, ECU) that at that time were not expected.

[jtstang]

Mitchell may transfer. He has two years of eligibility left.

[Alaric]

Samurai Stang, if Padron gets hurt and BLM represents the best chance to win next year, would you sacrifice honor and glory in battle in order to develop a future qb or would you use BLM as a stopgap in order to win and worry about developing a qb later?

If I wanted to win, I would not play BM. He has clearly demonstrated an inability to win when under pressure. McDermott will be eligible next year, and given that he will enter as a junior there would be no sacrifice for the future.

Please share your empirical analysis that leads you to believe McDermott is a better qb than BLM will be next year. Have you seen him practice? Not much to go by on stats from NMSU. Please don't say you can tell based on BLM's performance this year because you don't know what McDermott can do. I love Braden Smith but JJ clearly doesn't think he's a viable qb in this system.

For the record, I'd love to see McDermott or Smith be the backup if they're better than BLM to develop a younger guy like you said but we'll have plenty of time to groom the next LONG TERM starter since Padron's just a freshman.

[couch 'em]

the guy that got us several wins (UAB, ECU)

Several wins......total.

I don't with the guy ill will, but I think after halfway through next season BLM will not have a chance to set foot on the field again because the incoming talent is likely better equipped to play than BLM, just like Padron is. He should transfer.