FIRE DOHERTY NOW!

[ponyscott]

Some of my best friends are from Sengal.

Good one.

[SoCal_Pony]

I have to agree with Sarge on this one….yes it was only 1 game, but after seeing the TCU debacle last year, my opinion of Doh diminished greatly.

I am now officially of the same mindset that I was during PB’s last 2 years…..I am actually ROOTING for SMU to lose. I was extremely happy to see them fail in Hawaii and personally hope they do not win another game under Doh.

People criticized me when I posted this about PB but it brought us JJ + model changes. Don’t know if we need any more ‘model’ changes and am not optimistic we will land a high-profile coach like JJ, but Doh has been a failed experiment and I am ready to move on with the expectation that SO has learned from all this as well and will improve.

How great would it be for us to move seamlessly from a successful FB season to a successful BB one.

IT CAN HAPPEN

Pony Up

[Pony_Fan]

with the recent Charlotte Observer article, wonder if Doh could and would return to UNC as an assistant under Roy if it doesn't work out here. Speaking of north carolina schools, how is Dement doing lately at UNC Greensboro? I absolutely hate seeing coaches fired at SMU and i feel like i've seen enough now to last a lifetime.

http://www.uncgspartans.com/SportSelect ... PSID=28552

he's doing awful. they lost to College of C as well recently.

[ontheedgeofmyseat]

...the last thing we need is some guy like UH's Hakeem around this program.

[tristatecoog]

The talent isn't bad because the losses are close. The three losses to Top 65 teams were by an average of 10 points.

Army is actually pretty good. They've rolled through a lot of Ivy teams and have an RPI of 125.
According to RPIforecast.com, SMU has a 47% chance of winning the Army game an d 49% chance of winning at TX State. Why is SMU playing home and away vs. TX State, instead of playing UNT or UT-A?

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Southe ... odist.html

[EastStang]

I would not fire Doherty now, but wait until the end of the year. The recruits that we've signed can't get a release unless we change coaches. When I fire Doh, I want a short search so that the new coach can try and retain them. The coaches we would want are not going to be available until after the season is over. I'd let Doh dangle until I had a certain replacement (kind of like what they did to Tubbs).

[PoconoPony]

The talent isn't bad because the losses are close. The three losses to Top 65 teams were by an average of 10 points.

Army is actually pretty good. They've rolled through a lot of Ivy teams and have an RPI of 125.
According to RPIforecast.com, SMU has a 47% chance of winning the Army game an d 49% chance of winning at TX State. Why is SMU playing home and away vs. TX State, instead of playing UNT or UT-A?

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Southe ... odist.html

We are aiming to be a Top 25 team. Why are we rationalizing losses to Top 65 teams?????

[mustangxc]

I would not fire Doherty now, but wait until the end of the year. The recruits that we've signed can't get a release unless we change coaches. When I fire Doh, I want a short search so that the new coach can try and retain them. The coaches we would want are not going to be available until after the season is over. I'd let Doh dangle until I had a certain replacement (kind of like what they did to Tubbs).

I agree. I still hope that he turns this season around, but regardless, I think that it is in the best interest of the program to retain the head coach until the end of the season. I wasn't too happy when Coach Dement got fired before the season ended. The only benefit of firing a coach before the season ends is if you want to evaluate one of the assistants as head coaching material, but even then it is best to give the assistant a clean start at the beginning of the season.

[papawasamustang]

I would not fire Doherty now, but wait until the end of the year. The recruits that we've signed can't get a release unless we change coaches. When I fire Doh, I want a short search so that the new coach can try and retain them. The coaches we would want are not going to be available until after the season is over. I'd let Doh dangle until I had a certain replacement (kind of like what they did to Tubbs).

I agree. I still hope that he turns this season around, but regardless, I think that it is in the best interest of the program to retain the head coach until the end of the season. I wasn't too happy when Coach Dement got fired before the season ended. The only benefit of firing a coach before the season ends is if you want to evaluate one of the assistants as head coaching material, but even then it is best to give the assistant a clean start at the beginning of the season.

This program/ S.O. needs to look @ what's best for the long term success of this program & that doesn't include Doh SMU needs to make an IMMEDIATE statement both locally & nationally that we are serious about the men's basketball program.

[PonyDoh]

I would not fire Doherty now, but wait until the end of the year. The recruits that we've signed can't get a release unless we change coaches. When I fire Doh, I want a short search so that the new coach can try and retain them. The coaches we would want are not going to be available until after the season is over. I'd let Doh dangle until I had a certain replacement (kind of like what they did to Tubbs).

I agree. I still hope that he turns this season around, but regardless, I think that it is in the best interest of the program to retain the head coach until the end of the season. I wasn't too happy when Coach Dement got fired before the season ended. The only benefit of firing a coach before the season ends is if you want to evaluate one of the assistants as head coaching material, but even then it is best to give the assistant a clean start at the beginning of the season.

It does nothing for you as a program, especially one as difficult to build as SMU, to fire a coach mid campaign. The only reason you do it, is if the players are taking abuse to the point of revolt or lawsuit. I'd like to see Lutz b/c the hoops industry is about opportunity. He can't suck worse then Doh, he's been the only loyal foot soldier of the program, and maybe you catch lightening in a bottle. Maybe he has a plan and can be Pastner-lite, maybe he flails. Either way, it's better then the devil we know

[papawasamustang]

I would not fire Doherty now, but wait until the end of the year. The recruits that we've signed can't get a release unless we change coaches. When I fire Doh, I want a short search so that the new coach can try and retain them. The coaches we would want are not going to be available until after the season is over. I'd let Doh dangle until I had a certain replacement (kind of like what they did to Tubbs).

I agree. I still hope that he turns this season around, but regardless, I think that it is in the best interest of the program to retain the head coach until the end of the season. I wasn't too happy when Coach Dement got fired before the season ended. The only benefit of firing a coach before the season ends is if you want to evaluate one of the assistants as head coaching material, but even then it is best to give the assistant a clean start at the beginning of the season.

It does nothing for you as a program, especially one as difficult to build as SMU, to fire a coach mid campaign. The only reason you do it, is if the players are taking abuse to the point of revolt or lawsuit. I'd like to see Lutz b/c the hoops industry is about opportunity. He can't suck worse then Doh, he's been the only loyal foot soldier of the program, and maybe you catch lightening in a bottle. Maybe he has a plan and can be Pastner-lite, maybe he flails. Either way, it's better then the devil we know

PonyDoh, it does nothing for your program to keep a HC like Doh running the show.
As far as abuse, its the handful of SMU men's basketball fans that are being abused.
Time for change. The sooner the better.

[FriscoPMG]

I would not fire Doherty now, but wait until the end of the year. The recruits that we've signed can't get a release unless we change coaches. When I fire Doh, I want a short search so that the new coach can try and retain them. The coaches we would want are not going to be available until after the season is over. I'd let Doh dangle until I had a certain replacement (kind of like what they did to Tubbs).

I agree. I still hope that he turns this season around, but regardless, I think that it is in the best interest of the program to retain the head coach until the end of the season. I wasn't too happy when Coach Dement got fired before the season ended. The only benefit of firing a coach before the season ends is if you want to evaluate one of the assistants as head coaching material, but even then it is best to give the assistant a clean start at the beginning of the season.

I think with the entire conference schedule still ahead, you can justify firing the coach. The Dement firing was oddly timed since there were like 5-7 games left in the season (albeit the team had clearly quit on him so it was hard not to fire him at that time). Firing Doh right now would still allow this team to possibly regroup and re-energize under Lutz and the other assistants. You know what you're gonna get with Doh and that's most likely another last place or at least bottom of the conference finish. Maybe the change of voices in the room gets this team improving and playing the way we all hope and want them to.

[mustangxc]

The benefit of allowing Doherty to coach the rest of the season is that the replacement candidates will see that SMU gives the coach ample opportunity to prove himself. I don't think we are the type of program that can afford another disaster like the poor handling of the previous 2 dismissals.

[LA_Mustang]

...the last thing we need is some guy like UH's Hakeem around this program.

After reading your posts for several months I've finally figured out who you are....or at least what handle you used to post under. Unfortunately, it's pretty obvious

[ontheedgeofmyseat]

Funny things happen with the highs and lows of any college bball season...let's see what unfolds during C-USA play...why make a change now? Go Mustangs!!