2010 Point Gaurd Commits to SMU

[Stallion]

you can find guys all over Texas just as good and not 5-8 midgets -and the likelihood that he would attract other kids from Chicago is miniscule. The schools having success in this part of the country are recruiting Texas or at least the vicinity.

[PonyDoh]

you can find guys all over Texas just as good and not 5-8 midgets -and the likelihood that he would attract other kids from Chicago is miniscule. The schools having success in this part of the country are recruiting Texas or at least the vicinity.

Stallion, that's so tired. If Fab lived in Texas, he'd be a top 20 kid easily, if not higher. Dino Trigonis had Keith Shamburger as a Top 30 kid on the west coast, same w/Loyd, and that includes zona, cal, oregon, wash, nevada, utah etc. What's the Mike Kundstadt, texas equivalent, of a ranking like that, Top 15 in Texas maybe?

We need more locals, but players are players, and you're taking shots at Chicago area basketball. If you're one of the best in Chicago, you're one of the best in Dallas or Houston.

[papawasamustang]

Marshall Henderson, a very talented guard, is leaving
Utah. Sz he wants to be closer to home.
Played HS ball @ L D Bell. Could be a difference
maker for SMU. Will have 3 years left.

[CalallenStang]

Marshall Henderson, a very talented guard, is leaving
Utah. Sz he wants to be closer to home.
Played HS ball @ L D Bell. Could be a difference
maker for SMU. Will have 3 years left.

I'd take him, but don't think he'll come here.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5065167

Henderson also says he didn't feel coach Jim Boylen's strict rules and restrictions fit with his "individualism."

[Hoop Fan]

I like this commitment. I admit I have a soft spot for the quality of the CPL, i played against several CPL teams like King, Corliss and Whitney Young when i was in high school back in the day and these kids are as tough as nails plain and simple. On the other hand, I do tend to think there won't be any pipelines to SMU from the Chicago Public League. While this might be a quality signing in its own right, its another signing that does nothing to build a local pipeline or local interest. And there are good, tough players in Dallas too, perhaps some that are bigger than Fabyon. Maybe that will be addressed in 2011, maybe it won't, but we are where we are at the moment and that is sort of desperate scouring the nation for an all important point in the late signing period. I submit to you maybe a juco point guard was really the way for Doh to go to save himself. Fab will have to produce and be rock solid early especially if McCoy does not bounce back in a big and healthy way.

[NickSMU17]

I like this commitment. I admit I have a soft spot for the quality of the CPL, i played against several CPL teams like King, Corliss and Whitney Young when i was in high school back in the day and these kids are as tough as nails plain and simple. On the other hand, I do tend to think there won't be any pipelines to SMU from the Chicago Public League. While this might be a quality signing in its own right, its another signing that does nothing to build a local pipeline or local interest. And there are good, tough players in Dallas too, perhaps some that are bigger than Fabyon. Maybe that will be addressed in 2011, maybe it won't, but we are where we are at the moment and that is sort of desperate scouring the nation for an all important point in the late signing period. I submit to you maybe a juco point guard was really the way for Doh to go to save himself. Fab will have to produce and be rock solid early especially if McCoy does not bounce back in a big and healthy way.

Where from and where did you play?

[reddevil]

All State Honorable Mention per Chicago Tribune:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hi ... full.story

Received votes for Mr. Basketball in Illinois:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hi ... full.story

[PonyDoh]

I like this commitment. I admit I have a soft spot for the quality of the CPL, i played against several CPL teams like King, Corliss and Whitney Young when i was in high school back in the day and these kids are as tough as nails plain and simple. On the other hand, I do tend to think there won't be any pipelines to SMU from the Chicago Public League. While this might be a quality signing in its own right, its another signing that does nothing to build a local pipeline or local interest. And there are good, tough players in Dallas too, perhaps some that are bigger than Fabyon. Maybe that will be addressed in 2011, maybe it won't, but we are where we are at the moment and that is sort of desperate scouring the nation for an all important point in the late signing period. I submit to you maybe a juco point guard was really the way for Doh to go to save himself. Fab will have to produce and be rock solid early especially if McCoy does not bounce back in a big and healthy way.

I don't have a single problem w/what you said, good players exist everywhere, especially in hoops hubs like Chicago & Dallas. I do find it funny to make sweeping, agenda-driven Texas recruit comments, when the reality is that we're getting one of Chicago's finest. If we get Loyd, he's the best in Vegas, other then Cory Joseph etc. Sham is a top 30 player in the West Coast etc. Probably top 10 in SoCal. Simply, you can either play at an elite level or not. It's not really about Texas or L.A, Atlanta or Chicago.

Also, I'm not suggesting any sort of pipeline, those don't really exist unless you have an AAU head as your Director of hoops ops, or on the bench. I'm saying Fab is the type of PG who you can recruit to. Every town has that one kid that can attract others. This year in Houston it's Brandon Peters etc. Chicago won't ever be SMU bread & butter, but Fab may be good for getting us an additional look.

[Hoop Fan]

can't speak for anybody else, but my point is that the only place that SMU can and should have bread and butter is in Dallas/Texas. For every one recruit from Chicago or LA or Vegas, i feel like we should have one from Dallas generally. It was no coincidence that Sasser, Davis, Ross, Hancock, Bhop showed up in a relatively brief window of time, they attacted each other to some extent.

[ponyboy]

Can we modify this board to allow the use of Damon's last name? It's like the guy has been expunged from SMU athletics history.

[Stallion]

But he's a baller from Chi-Town. What a load of crap. Chi-Town is where Doh goes AFTER he gets shut out in Texas. Geez he made Honorable Mention All State in Illinois and he's 5-8. Look at all those offers. What a stud!!! Again I encourage all of you to find a list of the Texas teams that went to the NCAA Tounament in the last 5 years-pull up their Rosters and check how many players were from Texas or surrounding states. There are better players in DFW and there are better players in Texas. Doh just can't get 'em. If he hadn't waited until his 4th year to establish those connections then he might actually get one.

2009
Texas
Total Commitments: 69
BSC Commitments: 20 plus a Memphis commitment

Illinois
Total Commitments: 37
BCS Commitments: 9

[PK]

Can we modify this board to allow the use of Damon's last name? It's like the guy has been expunged from SMU athletics history.

Or learn to spell Damon's last name with a 0 instead of an O...Hanc0ck.

[NickSMU17]

But he's a baller from Chi-Town. What a load of crap. Chi-Town is where Doh goes AFTER he gets shut out in Texas. Geez he made Honorable Mention All State in Illinois and he's 5-8. Look at all those offers. What a stud!!! Again I encourage all of you to find a list of the Texas teams that went to the NCAA Tounament in the last 5 years-pull up their Rosters and check how many players were from Texas or surrounding states. There are better players in DFW and there are better players in Texas. Doh just can't get 'em. If he hadn't waited until his 4th year to establish those connections then he might actually get one.

2009
Texas
Total Commitments: 69
BSC Commitments: 20 plus a Memphis commitment

Illinois
Total Commitments: 37
BCS Commitments: 9

You are leaving out the part where you list number of participants...not to mention there is only 1 real hub of Illinois basketball, thay being Chicago...sometimes E. St. Louis...Illinois per capita and esp chicago per capita is by far a better basketball area...

[CalallenStang]

But he's a baller from Chi-Town. What a load of crap. Chi-Town is where Doh goes AFTER he gets shut out in Texas. Geez he made Honorable Mention All State in Illinois and he's 5-8. Look at all those offers. What a stud!!! Again I encourage all of you to find a list of the Texas teams that went to the NCAA Tounament in the last 5 years-pull up their Rosters and check how many players were from Texas or surrounding states. There are better players in DFW and there are better players in Texas. Doh just can't get 'em. If he hadn't waited until his 4th year to establish those connections then he might actually get one.

2009
Texas
Total Commitments: 69
BSC Commitments: 20 plus a Memphis commitment

Illinois
Total Commitments: 37
BCS Commitments: 9

Stallion, I'd advise you to stick to football recruiting.

Illinois Population 13 million
Texas Population 25 million

Now all of a sudden the talent looks pretty similar when you look at commitments and BCS commitments per capita, doesn't it?

Plus he never waited to "develop relationships." You're showing that your football recruiting prowess doesn't extend to basketball.

[EastStang]

Stallion, you're wrong about Doh not reaching out to locals. He spent his first months here trying to re-open the Dallas pipeline and got the stiff-arm. The waters were fouled by the Tubbs firing and no one in the DISD was going to stick their neck out to help us. Plain and simple. So, where did he go, back to his old recruiting stomping grounds, Chicago, DC, LA, and got what he could get there. He knew what we all know, DISD kids won't be coming to SMU until we have a winner. We're going to have to build a winner from imports and then we have something to sell to the Texas kids. So, stop carping about his signing of the best point guard available. He's not ignoring Texas, Texas is ignoring us. Now, if you want to carp about the fact that we've stunk for the past six years, I'm all in on that one.