Utah and Colorado to Pac-10, according to ESPNRadio

[RGV Pony]

NO WAY Arkansas leaves rhe SEC! Are you crazy???

no, but I understand Frank Broyles is.

[CalallenStang]

NO WAY Arkansas leaves rhe SEC! Are you crazy???

no, but I understand Frank Broyles is.

I believe Broyles retired...could be wrong though.

[huskerpony]

Sounds like the Big 12 North could be breaking up. Jim Tressel was in Lincoln meeting with Osborne yesterday.

[RGV Pony]

NO WAY Arkansas leaves rhe SEC! Are you crazy???

no, but I understand Frank Broyles is.

I believe Broyles retired...could be wrong though.

he did, in 2007. But that's always the trump card to play when discussing Arkansas.

Somewhere along the way I think people are underestimating the Big 12. So long as Texas is committed to the Big 12, they have the highest revenue football program in America, and that's a hefty asset.

[Stallion]

I have always thought for about a decade that Colorado and Utah inevitably would end up in the PAC 10. And BYU would go the what remains of the Big 12 if they want that option based on what is availiable. What I can't quite believe is that the Big 10 will simply water down an already weak BCS Conference by adding still more schools in areas without many good football recruits such as UCONN, Rutgers and Syracuse. It really would just be for subscribers to their TV Network. But I don't see it helping the quality of play in the Big 10. I still got this feeling that Big 10 is attempting a power play to force Notre Dame's hand. I also think Missouri or Nebraska makes more sense than UCONN or Rutgers or Syracuse. UT has no interest in the SEC and has no interest in the PAC 10 unless possibly there is a Southwest core of say Colorado, Texas, A&M, OU and Texas Tech.

[huskerpony]

It really would just be for subscribers to their TV Network.

Beyond adding a championship game, isn't that really all they are after?

I still got this feeling that Big 10 is attempting a power play to force Notre Dame's hand.

I have that feeling too--although I didn't like hearing that Tressel was in Lincoln. The Big 12 better get plans for a TV network together fast.

[RGV Pony]

I have that feeling too--although I didn't like hearing that Tressel was in Lincoln.

FCA banquet.

[huskerpony]

FCA banquet.

Yeah, I know. Which just happened to be the same day the BCS meetings were going on in DC. He spent 2 hours meeting with Osborne before it. Supposedly they are discussing a non-conference series in 2021-22, but I'm sure that isn't all that was discussed.

[PK]

TCU board seems to be 75% they will be added to the big 12....this would suck big time....

From the standpoint of being a quality team TCU has no problem, but the Big 12 already owns the DFW/north central Texas TV market without a local school in the mix. Colarado State would help them maintain the Denver TV market or BYU would add the Mormon market...for what ever that might be worth. Just saying...

[Stallion]

there is a small glimmer of longshot hope TCU gets in - if Colorado goes to PAC 10, and both Nebraska and Missouri go to the Big 10 and Texas doesn't want to go to the SEC 14 or PAC 16. Then I can see BYU, and 2 or 3 of whatever is left- TCU or Boise or Colorado St or New Mexico. But doesn't UT just look elsewhere in this scenario. In that scenario I would see a PAC 16 with a Southwest Division of

UT
A&M
Tech
OU
Colorado
Arizona
Arizona St
Utah


actually makes some sense on a map

That would leave:

BYU
TCU
Boise
Houston
Air Force
New Mexico
Iowa St
Oklahoma St
Kansas
Kansas St.
Colorado St
Baylor. SMU or Wyoming (SMU might be fighting for this slot because now Dallas, Texas media market and recruiting would be attractive to this group)
________________
Baylor
SMU
Wyoming
Rice
UTEP
Tulane
Tulsa
San Diego St (probably WAC)
UNLV (probably WAC)

[Stallion]

Best Scenario:

SOUTHERN DIVISION (6 or 7)

TCU
UH
SMU
Baylor
Oklahoma St.
New Mexico
Air Force

North Division(6 or 7)

Boise
BYU
Wyoming
Kansas
Kansas St.
Iowa St.
Colorado St.

[Stallion]

Or

Central Division

SMU
TCU
Baylor
Houston
Oklahoma St
Kansas
Kansas St

Mountain Division

BYU
Boise
Iowa St
Colorado St
New Mexico
Air Force
Wyoming

It would be the best thing ever to happen to SMU Basketball

[ponyte]

Kind of ironic. The Big 2 expanded by 'poaching' the SWC. Now the Big 2 is being 'poached' by the PAC 10. Assumes the information about Utah and Colorado are correct. But the Big 2 expanded based on TV and power and now is not strong enough to fend off poaching.

The Big 2 will have difficulty getting a solid toehold in Big 10 territory and the PAC 10 will not be fertile recruiting ground. Perhaps the Big 2 can go after some SEC territory (like Tulane in a large city with solid facilities and no chance of upsetting the Big 2 power as is).

[couch 'em]

there is a small glimmer of longshot hope TCU gets in - if Colorado goes to PAC 10, and both Nebraska and Missouri go to the Big 10 and Texas doesn't want to go to the SEC 14 or PAC 16. Then I can see BYU, and 2 or 3 of whatever is left- TCU or Boise or Colorado St or New Mexico. But doesn't UT just look elsewhere in this scenario. In that scenario I would see a PAC 16 with a Southwest Division of

UT
A&M
Tech

Why Tech? They dont' really add anything. Seems like TCU would be a better choice for the conference. Not much TV in Lubbottock and with TCU at least the conference schools get to play in the DFW recruiting hotbed.

[ponyboy]

Think our winning season last year and current upward trajectory will not be huge? One year of respectable football and we're in some conversations for an improvement in our conference situation. You gotta think there's some proactive, behind-closed-doors scenario planning going on that involves us.

Talk about JIT. Our timing to finally turn this thing around could not have been any better. Is the curse finally broken?

I just wish we could get the Article 19 film out there right now.