Utah and Colorado to Pac-10, according to ESPNRadio

[ponydawg]

Saw this link on hornfans.com,
I assume if this dream worked out, there might be a space for SMU with the leftovers from the big 12, maybe even a former SWC type feel.

SEC Expanding to 16 teams

"1. Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Nebraska

Voila, a sixteen team conference whose future would be so bright that all in the immediate vicinity of the conference would have to shield their eyes lest they be blinded.

You take the four traditional powers of the Southwest region and combine them with the Southeast's behemoths. You get the Texas television market, and the college football cachet of Oklahoma and Nebraska. Arkansas is reunited with its old foes in the Southwest Conference and a reconfigured SEC West now includes the four above teams with Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss and Alabama.

Then you could switch Auburn and Mississippi State to the SEC East. You're talking about an SEC East that would feature Tennessee, Florida, Georgia and Auburn?

And an SEC West with Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Alabama and LSU?

Good Lord, this conference might be so powerful that it could set up its own playoff featuring its own schools and crown a national champion each year."

http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2010/0 ... on-candid/

[PonyTime]

there is a small glimmer of longshot hope TCU gets in - if Colorado goes to PAC 10, and both Nebraska and Missouri go to the Big 10 and Texas doesn't want to go to the SEC 14 or PAC 16. Then I can see BYU, and 2 or 3 of whatever is left- TCU or Boise or Colorado St or New Mexico. But doesn't UT just look elsewhere in this scenario. In that scenario I would see a PAC 16 with a Southwest Division of

UT
A&M
Tech

Why Tech? They dont' really add anything. Seems like TCU would be a better choice for the conference. Not much TV in Lubbottock and with TCU at least the conference schools get to play in the DFW recruiting hotbed.

Tech has a larger alumni base. Larger alumni base = more TV sets.

I have to ask the obvious question:

Which is better - 100,000 Tech fans with 90,000 TV sets (15% black and white) or 20,000 SMU fans with 5 plasma/flatscreens each?

[PK]

I don't think any of the big BCS conferences want any small private universities in their conferences. Some of them already have one by virtue of them being left over from their previous associations at the time of their becoming BCS conferences. ND and BYU are probably the only exceptions to the "private" universities that would be welcome due to their large fan bases.

[huskerpony]

More kittens will die.

Finally some good news!

[davidpaul123]

If this happens, does the Big Ten expand to 12 or 14 as has been asked? If they expand to 12, then do they go with ND (if they'll go) or Missouri, or a Big East team (like Syracuse or Pitt)? Or do they go to 14 and do they go after UT and A&M and OU and Nebraska. Or some other mixture. Does the ACC or SEC make a defensive move to 14? (Which I doubt will happen with the SEC). If you're KY, SC, GA, do you want to give up a home date with LSU, Alabama or Arkansas for a home date with UT or A&M which would be the result of a move to 14? And if you're LSU do you want to make it harder to reach the SEC title game? Its only if there is a significant price being paid to add UT to the SEC. The Big Ten with their own network would want to add UT because of the extra cable systems that will pick up their network if UT joins. If no one moves to 14, and if the Big XII has two holes to fill. BYU makes sense, but who else, AFA, TCU, Louisville (basketball contract and tourney units get better with them)? If they only have one, they ask BYU no question on that. Lots of issues out there. More kittens will die and we'll watch and see where we end up after the dust settles.

The expansion definitely seems poised to begin and end with the Big 10 although the Pac-10 will likely go to 12 teams. I would think the Big 10 goes to at least 14 since they would want ND and to move into some other markets, but 16 may not be out of the question here too. I guess the aggressiveness of the Big 10 is really going to be the mover and shaker here.

[Samurai Stang]

The expansion definitely seems poised to begin and end with the Big 10 although the Pac-10 will likely go to 12 teams. I would think the Big 10 goes to at least 14 since they would want ND and to move into some other markets, but 16 may not be out of the question here too. I guess the aggressiveness of the Big 10 is really going to be the mover and shaker here.

That, as well as how potential Big East schools such as UConn and West Virginia would react to potential new members, especially in the event that the Big 10 expands to 16. These schools would no doubt aggressively look elsewhere. Whether that results in the ACC or SEC taking them is another matter, though. However, in the event that they were taken it would leave the Big East needing nine new schools . I say nine, rather than 5, because with the loss of such powerful teams it would take more schools in order for the Big East to maintain its BCS status.

If West Virginia and UConn leave, these schools would be potential candidates for Big East expansion
1. East Carolina
2. Marshall
3. Navy
4. UCF
5. Memphis
6. Southern Mississippi
7. TCU
8. SMU
9. Houston
10. Villanova
11. Tulsa

Eleven schools vying for nine openings, and truthfully I do not believe Tulsa or Marshall would be selected.

[DiamondM75]

I don't think any of the big BCS conferences want any small private universities in their conferences. Some of them already have one by virtue of them being left over from their previous associations at the time of their becoming BCS conferences. ND and BYU are probably the only exceptions to the "private" universities that would be welcome due to their large fan bases.

Not so fast there. Conferences want private schools because private schools are not subject to all the public information laws as state schools, therfore, if you keep one private school in your conference, there is a lot of information, especially financial, that you do not have to make public record.

[PK]

I don't think any of the big BCS conferences want any small private universities in their conferences. Some of them already have one by virtue of them being left over from their previous associations at the time of their becoming BCS conferences. ND and BYU are probably the only exceptions to the "private" universities that would be welcome due to their large fan bases.

Not so fast there. Conferences want private schools because private schools are not subject to all the public information laws as state schools, therfore, if you keep one private school in your conference, there is a lot of information, especially financial, that you do not have to make public record.

A public school is a public school and all their finacial records are subject to public review. The conferences may be able to do some fancy footwork with the finacial information because of the private school being a member, but the public schools can't hide their records...IMHO.

[Stallion]

yep-I can't see how that would protect the entire conference or state schools from releasing most information. If there is matter not covered by a Freedom of Information Act Request a Court would likely simply require them to delete or redact the privileged or exempted information and produce the rest.

[SMUFan]

Sounds like the Big 12 North could be breaking up. Jim Tressel was in Lincoln meeting with Osborne yesterday.

After all of the talk out of Austin and College Station a few years ago about whether UT and A&M should go to the Pac-10 or the SEC, how funny would it be if Colorado heads west and Nebraska heads to the Big 11, thereby leaving the Cows and Aggies in a weakened conference. It would serve them right.

[EastStang]

While I'm all about protecting the privates, I agree with Stallion on that.

There are a few privates that they want to keep. USC, Stanford, Miami, Duke, Wake Forest, Boston College, Notre Dame, BYU and Syracuse (I think that's private). I agree that if the SEC could lose Vandy they could. Same with the Big XII and Baylor. With regard to the SEC, more rumors appear to be circulating about FSU, Miami, GT or Clemson if they go to 14 or 16. UT, A&M, Nebraska and OU would be huge, but again, if you're LSU, Alabama or Florida, do you really want to make it harder on yourself to get to the National Championship game, ditto for UT, OU and Nebraska.

[Charleston Pony]

the success of the Big 10 Network suddenly has them holding all the cards, or so it appears. Since a name change is inevitable...why not the Big 14 or even the Big 16? They may be in a position to "force" Notre Dame's hand if they were able to raid the Big East and lock in the NY metro/northeast TV markets. This could get really interesting, as this next round really has the look of Darwinism at work

[Topper]

My prediction:

I think the Big 12 as we know it is toast. I see Colorado, Missouri and Nebraska or Kansas bolting. If that happens, look for UT and A & M to follow the money to the SEC.

Utah and Colorado to the PAC 12
Missouri and Nebraska to the Big 10 (Possible OU and Kansas as well)
Texas and A & M to the SEC.

Everyone else will scramble.

[Stallion]

Never mind-shut thread down

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2010/04/ ... 271895709/

[CalallenStang]

Never mind-shut thread down

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2010/04/ ... 271895709/

Dang. We need to beat TCU this year or else they will be in a good position next year (better than this year).