Texas Staying in Big 12!!!

[mr. pony]

ESPN just said UT, Tech, OU, OSU departure to Pac10 imminent.
See new thread.

[ponydawg]

Would love for Big 12 to survive with the 10. Then PAC10 finishes its job by taking UTAH. Then after TV studies, Big 12 takes BYU crushing MWC and leaving TCU on an island.

[Wuba]

I think Texas is now putting the onus on A&M to commit or walk and Texas will do the same. This may be too far gone to salvage. I have a hard time believing they can actually dump the Big XII title game and have the revenue they discuss. Isn't the current TV deal predicated on that game? Won't they lose some money of that game goes away?

Exactly. Well put Dooby. A&M becomes the "heavy" and goes to the SEC, then Texas can say before going to the PAC 10, "We tried."

I don't really see how the Big 12 can stay together for long even with Texas. If you were Kansas, wouldn't you bail the first chance you got? SEC? PAC10? There has to be no trust remaining with any of the Big 12 members. Especially with Texas in charge.

I agree with you. Haven't any of you seen someone who wants to get out of a relationship without being the bad guy? They (Texas) treat their girlfriend (A&M/rest of Big 12) somewhat badly (make the Big 12 seem totally unstable) and make unreasonable demands (crazy share of the TV money, etc). Eventually the girl (Nebraska/A&M) ends the relationship (goes to Big-10/SEC), which is what the guy (Texas) wants, and he (Texas) gets to be the good guy (Texas: "we wanted to stay in Big 12, but everyone left") and go date that hot thing he had his eye on (Pac-10).

[Topper]

didnt Mack Daddy Brown say he wanted to stay in the Big 12 when all this started? Texas in the Pac 10 or Big 10 really makes no sense geographically or time zone-wise. Yeah the money is good...but...if they can convince ARK to jump and add TCU the Big 12 may survive...sure Texas may not have wanted a TCU in the Big 12, but this thing is so fluid....they may prefer a TCU and ARK over trips to Pullman, Washington....and who knows maybe our long shot is they add more than 2?

Arkansas is going nowhere and Texas will never play in a conference with SMU or TCU. The Hogs will play a game at Jerryworld every year, or any time they like, giving them all the recruiting presence they need in Dallas. They don't need to play us or even TCU to maintain their presence here now that JJ has turned Arlington into Fayetteville South.

[mr. pony]

didnt Mack Daddy Brown say he wanted to stay in the Big 12 when all this started? Texas in the Pac 10 or Big 10 really makes no sense geographically or time zone-wise. Yeah the money is good...but...if they can convince ARK to jump and add TCU the Big 12 may survive...sure Texas may not have wanted a TCU in the Big 12, but this thing is so fluid....they may prefer a TCU and ARK over trips to Pullman, Washington....and who knows maybe our long shot is they add more than 2?

Arkansas is going nowhere and Texas will never play in a conference with SMU or TCU. The Hogs will play a game at Jerryworld every year, or any time they like, giving them all the recruiting presence they need in Dallas. They don't need to play us or even TCU to maintain their presence here now that JJ has turned Arlington into Fayetteville South.

I'm not so sure Texas would NEVER play in a league with SMU/TCU. JerryWorld could be used to accomodate 'Horns fans. But yeah, it's unlikely.

[smupony94]

Will House hearing come too late?

By Jason Embry | Monday, June 14, 2010, 06:17 AM

Conference moves expected soon, Perry is in China and you need to watch these Herman videos.

The Statesman’s Ralph Haurwitz has a pretty thorough look this morning at where things stand on conference realignment. House Higher Education Committee Chairman Dan Branch tells him he hopes schools wait to decide their fate until after his committee holds a Wednesday hearing on the issue. “I’m feeling confident that these institutions will not take any final action before the Wednesday hearing,” Branch told the American-Statesman. “They respect the Legislature and understand that we’re going to have a hearing.”

Haurwitz continues, “While Pac-10 Conference representatives flew from one Big 12 stop to the next issuing informal invitations, Texas A&M has not spurned that league’s offer but is still weighing its options and considering the Pac-10 and the Southeastern Conference, an A&M school spokesman told the Statesman Sunday. Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott and deputy commissioner Kevin Weiberg flew in a private plane and made stops at College Station, Lubbock and Austin to hand out invitations to join their conference. Others, however, are fighting hard to preserve what’s left of the Big 12 after announced exits by Colorado (which is leaving for the Pac-10) and Nebraska (Big Ten). ‘The Aggies are trying to slow this down,’ a top Big 12 school official said Sunday afternoon.”

• From the Houston Chronicle’s Brent Zwerneman: “Texas A&M has grown starry-eyed for the Southeastern Conference, an Aggies insider said Sunday, and A&M considers its overall athletic endeavors grander than the death of a conference rivalry game on Thanksgiving. A&M’s board of regents likely will meet late this week — perhaps as soon as Thursday — to decide the Aggies’ sporting future, a person with knowledge of the situation said. And that future appears to be the SEC, as the powerful league to the east is prepared to lure A&M away from the clinging-to-hope Big 12, a proposed Pacific-10 affiliation and its storied league rivalry with Texas.”

[Pony Up]

I have no doubt that Chip Brown had someone tell him this, but I can't believe this is anything more than posturing by UT so Dodds can say "I tried to save the conference" to make himself look he's not the money-grubbing con artist that he is. I can't believe UT stays.

Besides, there are conflicting reports. At the same time that CB put this report out, another source told ESPN the mass exit to the Pac-16 is "imminent" and that the last-minute plan to save the Big 12 has "zero" chance to succeed.

Stay tuned.

[ponyboy]

Dan Branch is an SMU law alum. What are we, the Kevin Bacons of the realignment world?

[smupony94]

Sports guy for NYT saying they are staying

[EastStang]

On CBS Sportsnews.com, Stallings is saying that A&M wants to stay in the Big XII (10). So no one wants the blood on their hands from this. Which is pretty funny to watch. They're all whores, its just now down to what's the price?

[RGV Pony]

So do they stay at 10 or add Memphis and one other school to get back to 12? Add Memphis and Air Force. or Memphis & BYU.

[Stallion]

they don't need to add anyone. Better question-why would any worthy team trust this bunch unless it was a small private school in a major Texas metropolitan area that had nothing better to lose.

[abezontar]

they don't need to add anyone. Better question-why would any worthy team trust this bunch.

Well, if you aren't currently in a BCS conference, you join and begin to be thought of as a BCS team, do well at all, and you are going to be a better candidate when things shake up again than you would be if you weren't in the BCS conference. Generally.

[East Coast Mustang]

And we thought the original Big XII was a marriage of convenience...wow

[Stallion]

Maybe SMU's Big Boys have been the ones all along with a masterplan to deadlock the Big 12 and make it so unstable that all other prospects turned them down-leaving SMU as the only school to pick up pieces. BRILLIANT!!! Thank You SMU Alumnus Chip Brown. Half kiddin'. But certainly Utah would definitely go to the PAC when once they might have considered Big 12. Even TCU might end up in worse shape in 2 years by taking a Big 12 offer today