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Re: academic casualties

Postby Pony_Fan » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:30 am

back to my original question.

How many have we lost and what impact will this have on the season?
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Alysa » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:50 pm

SMU89 wrote:My understanding has been the academic adjustments were never 100% where they need to be.

No news to the powers that be (not that they all like it) -- so I don't see how Jones bails -- but coming off a bowl win the Indians might get restless to force more change

I'm a longtime Pony also upset about the academic casualties. But damn dude "Indians might get restless" makes us real Indians feel invisible. Not all Ponies are only na hullo (whites). Well, in my case, as half Indian and half na hullo, liminal.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Hilltopper » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:37 pm

Pony_Fan wrote:back to my original question.

How many have we lost and what impact will this have on the season?

Hopefully no impact, as it would be nice to have such talent and depth that we can redshirt the entire group of incoming freshmen, until we start signing players like Adrian Peterson who are so good they can start anywhere. Of course, we are nowhere near that stage, so hopefully the casualties won't kill the season. After losing a senior class with the likes of Sanders, Kennemer, Enright, etc., there are openings for a talented freshman to get on the field.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby SMU89 » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:37 pm

Alysa wrote:
SMU89 wrote:My understanding has been the academic adjustments were never 100% where they need to be.

No news to the powers that be (not that they all like it) -- so I don't see how Jones bails -- but coming off a bowl win the Indians might get restless to force more change

I'm a longtime Pony also upset about the academic casualties. But damn dude "Indians might get restless" makes us real Indians feel invisible. Not all Ponies are only na hullo (whites). Well, in my case, as half Indian and half na hullo, liminal.


Exactly my point....

You were invisible until you became a half restless Indian which prompted your third post. We didn't know you existed.

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Re: academic casualties

Postby Mestengo » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:20 am

I want to drink liquor with the Indian. 8)
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Pony ^ » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:07 pm

It is the professors that need to realize we need wins
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Samurai Stang » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:18 pm

Pony ^ wrote:It is the professors that need to realize we need wins


Turner was a professor.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby GoRedGoBlue » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:25 pm

Mestengo wrote:I want to drink liquor with the Indian. 8)



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Re: academic casualties

Postby EastStang » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:24 am

I suspect that these go hand in hand with some of the admissions denials. Turner is probably watching our APC scores and doesn't want to go too far out on a limb. Also, I am sure that some of the faculty are blowing back about the academic skills sets of some of these guys. If guys are not getting grades, it means that they are not putting the effort into it. ALC is there, tutors are there, fellow classmates are there, and they have brains. So, those that are failing are making it more difficult for others to follow.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby RGV Pony » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:29 am

EastStang wrote: Also, I am sure that some of the faculty are blowing back about the academic skills sets of some of these guys.


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Re: academic casualties

Postby Cadillac » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:11 am

Alysa wrote:
SMU89 wrote:My understanding has been the academic adjustments were never 100% where they need to be.

But damn dude "Indians might get restless" makes us real Indians feel invisible..


Wha???? Who said that? Is somebody there?

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Re: academic casualties

Postby Stallion » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:16 am

Half the Frats on campus didn't get their grades last semester.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby ponydawg » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:19 am

Me feel smart.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby lwjr » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:41 am

Why can't SMU let him in, red shirt him or something along that line, so he can become acclimated to the college demands. After the first semester they should know if the kid can make it or not. Maybe he was not getting the support in High School, and thru advisors and tutors he me might become a very good student and someday might become a very good supporter of dear ole SMU.

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Re: academic casualties

Postby PonyDoh » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:51 am

Samurai Stang wrote:
RE Tycoon wrote:I see all the outrage posted on here, but can someone step away from the ledge and give me the facts? I know 4-6 guys aren't eligible, but only Hall made it through the Clearinghouse and wasn't admitted, correct? So why is JJ now contemplating leaving, and is that fact or someone knee-jerking? Also, why would they let in Shawnbrey last year ( and weren't there questionable true frosh ), and then all the sudden do a 180?

I'm not saying you guys are wrong, I just want a coherent post with just the facts.


The only true concern should come from the rejection of Hall. The others were expected casualties. However, even one recruit being held back unnecessarily should be cause for concern.

If academics are the only factor, this would be extremely inconsistent. Did not the basketball team recruit a player who had not even graduated high school but had instead received a GED?


First, the hoops player I think you're refering to is DWill, and the hoops staff still consider it a miracle he got in. That said, he finished up w/honors at JC, and then made all conference academic team as a senior at SMU. Simply, he had put some academic success under him prior to SMU, after the GED.

Now, Ricmonds Vilde was just admitted as a non-qualifier. From what i'm told, the difference is that he grew up in Latvia and just had a very different academic platform. Smart kid but English is his 2nd language etc. They must feel better about his ability to achieve at SMU, then they do about kids who grew up in this system, but still struggle mightily.
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