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Re: academic casualties

Postby HB Pony Dad » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:41 pm

Where is our Methodist equivalent to the Priest mentor in RUDY when we need him?
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Samurai Stang » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:43 pm

HB Pony Dad wrote:Where is our Methodist equivalent to the Priest mentor in RUDY when we need him?


I nominate myself. Commence killing.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby PonyDoh » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:06 pm

Nacho wrote:how does smu admit a nonqualifier but not a qualifier. why am i am amazed by anything smu does?


the non-qualifier is from Latvia and had a different schooling system. English is also his second language, although he's fluent. The prevailing thought is that he's a smart kid from overseas and just had a different platform. He had letters from his prep school coaches, administrators, even principal stating as much etc. The line of thinking is that if he were raised here, he'd be a nn brainer qualifier
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Samurai Stang » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:20 pm

PonyDoh wrote:the non-qualifier is from Latvia and had a different schooling system. English is also his second language, although he's fluent. The prevailing thought is that he's a smart kid from overseas and just had a different platform. He had letters from his prep school coaches, administrators, even principal stating as much etc. The line of thinking is that if he were raised here, he'd be a nn brainer qualifier


But he was not raised in America and did not qualify. What this says is that SMU admissions only uses standardized testing to justify its position when it suits its purposes. Either the testing is important or it is not. You cannot have it both ways.

Accepting the European that did not qualify over the African-Americans that did is certain to do wonders for SMU's reputation as a white school.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby ponyte » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:24 pm

I believe the exception is being made because this kid is from a former Soviet Bloc. The admissions committee is hopeful that he will be a raving socialist and thus fit in with the faculty.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby PonyDoh » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:41 pm

Samurai Stang wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:the non-qualifier is from Latvia and had a different schooling system. English is also his second language, although he's fluent. The prevailing thought is that he's a smart kid from overseas and just had a different platform. He had letters from his prep school coaches, administrators, even principal stating as much etc. The line of thinking is that if he were raised here, he'd be a nn brainer qualifier


But he was not raised in America and did not qualify. What this says is that SMU admissions only uses standardized testing to justify its position when it suits its purposes. Either the testing is important or it is not. You cannot have it both ways.

Accepting the European that did not qualify over the African-Americans that did is certain to do wonders for SMU's reputation as a white school.


I understand SMU white rep better than anyone, but let's quit the race-baiting nonsense. The thinking is that Vilde is a helluva lot more prepared, and will acclimate in college far better then a kid who they know will struggle from Day 1.That's not a color thing, that's an extenuating circumstance thing, b/c one kid is foreign. IF anything, he's getting screwed cause he wasn't raised here, and loses a year over it. It's called judging case by case, not just taking the buffoons at the clearinghouse seriously. That said, the football kids were SCREWED too
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Mestengo » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:47 pm

I’m color blind. 8)
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Re: academic casualties

Postby Topper » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:24 pm

If I'm Jones I walk. I would refuse to have my recruits treated this way. If there was fraud or deception involved it would be one thing. But it looks like the deceit was all SMU's. I'm disgusted with Turner unless he makes this right.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby NavyCrimson » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:13 pm

Ponte & Samurai - you guys are killing me!!!

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Re: academic casualties

Postby EastStang » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:34 am

Academic casualties color what's happening now. These go hand in hand. If you don't see that you're blind. The Admissions Committee knows which athletes are having academic problems what their SAT scores were what their ACT scores were, and may just may be getting a glimmer of some sort of minimum standards that they can live with. We don't know all of the details we only know that there are some kids who are going to be academically ineligible this fall. And that does nobody any good.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby HB Pony Dad » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:17 am

EastStang wrote:Academic casualties color what's happening now. These go hand in hand. If you don't see that you're blind. The Admissions Committee knows which athletes are having academic problems what their SAT scores were what their ACT scores were, and may just may be getting a glimmer of some sort of minimum standards that they can live with. We don't know all of the details we only know that there are some kids who are going to be academically ineligible this fall. And that does nobody any good.


I just received an unrelated letter from SMU and I thought I'd share this...

It is important to note that in an undergraduate student body of 5,759 ...


I had no idea that the total undergraduate enrollment was so small!

Sheds a bit of light on how the selection process for admission is so competitive.

Knowing this, I have to wonder how serious the commitment to JJ was at his hiring?
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Re: academic casualties

Postby ponyte » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:28 am

SMU could and should consider opening up the undergrad student population.
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Re: academic casualties

Postby HB Pony Dad » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:19 pm

ponyte wrote:SMU could and should consider opening up the undergrad student population.


How do you do that in today's economy?

How do you tell parents that their son/daughter may or may not graduate for a mere $250,000.00 ?

Being a Private University with High Academic standards and High Tuition costs is a handicap to SMU to begin with; couple that with a diffidence to revenue producing athletic programs and the future becomes bleaker.

JJ may indeed pack his bags and look for a more friendly administration at a larger university.

BTW do you know the undergraduate student population at TCU?
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Re: academic casualties

Postby NavyCrimson » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:23 pm

Right now I'd like to be the size of USC's.

I think TCU's is around 8 to 9K?
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Re: academic casualties

Postby 450fan » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:42 pm

NavyCrimson wrote:Right now I'd like to be the size of USC's.

I think TCU's is around 8 to 9K?


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