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Re: coach question

Postby EastStang » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:21 am

In basketball, like football we have tried the big name formula, Shumate and Doherty, the recruiter with local ties formula, Tubbs, the hot up and comer formula, Dement and we still stink. We need to pretty much follow the formula that we followed for football. Hire the best guy available who has had unquestionable success at this level. There are some names out there. Do we want to pay what they would want? That is the question. Otherwise, you find a face for the program who had a successful NBA career with say Dallas, Houston or San Antonio and let someone else handle the bench.
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Re: coach question

Postby PonyDoh » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:52 am

EastStang wrote:In basketball, like football we have tried the big name formula, Shumate and Doherty, the recruiter with local ties formula, Tubbs, the hot up and comer formula, Dement and we still stink. We need to pretty much follow the formula that we followed for football. Hire the best guy available who has had unquestionable success at this level. There are some names out there. Do we want to pay what they would want? That is the question. Otherwise, you find a face for the program who had a successful NBA career with say Dallas, Houston or San Antonio and let someone else handle the bench.


Here's the thing, football vastly overpaid. Is that the formula we're looking at for hoops? If so, we may be able to make a lateral mid-major hire, but the AD is going to bleed out financially. You can't look at these things in a vacuum, and Jones' deal may be worth it, but it makes the same type of hire cost prohibitive in hoops. If that weren't the case, we'd have bought out Doh already. In fundraising, specifically booster-related, you can only go to the same well so many times, in a designated period of time.

I'm all for saying we should hire the best proven candidate, but hoops is different than football, and guys like June Jones don't really exist in hoops. You are either on your way up, on your way down, or are achieving in your current position. renegades that hang on the perifory like Jones, tend to run rogue programs in hoops, and our admin isnt playing that. They hang on the outside so they can run roughshod over admissions, admin, faculty etc.

You want someone that will recruit, whose career-arc may be on the rise again, but is bogged in controversy, look no further than Todd Bozeman. He danced last year, paid his debt to the NCAA, and is quite capable. You want an up'n'comer, look no further than Cameron Dollar etc. There isn't a best case scenario here, b/c successful mid-major guys are either in a good spot for them to succeed, or they move up to a high major. I guess we could pay high major money, but why again? You have to take some chances w/this position until its not a graveyard anymore., or we can max out our boosters and AD
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