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How is Baylor doing this?

Postby NickSMU17 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:35 pm

This guy has to be cheating...have these kids ever been to Waco...it sucks...not to mention when they get left out of next re-alignment it will suck even more...

http://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/N ... Bears.html
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby ponyboy » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:23 pm

Here's your answer:
...Baylor’s Christian environment was a key factor in his decision.

“He’s a well-rounded kid,” Forsett said. “That’s the best thing about him. He really cares about his books. Baylor is really a bigger version of our school. It’s a private Christian school, and it’s a place Isaiah feels comfortable.”
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby NickSMU17 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:29 pm

They covered up a murder within the last 10 years...
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby EastStang » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:43 pm

But they still don't allow girls in boys dorms and vice versa. They don't have co-ed dorms. They don't allow smoking or drinking. "Gay" means "happy" in Waco. So to a lot of parents, Baylor sounds like a place where their kid will not be able get into much trouble. And being in the sticks means there is not much urban temptation. The murder occurred during Dave Bliss' regime and can be written off as a rogue period in their history.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby Bergermeister » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:33 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:This guy has to be cheating...

Ya think? :wink:
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby ponyscott » Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:35 pm

He's hiding behind the cross.....
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby Sic_em » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:47 pm

If you're not a Baylor fan, the answer is that Drew must be cheating.

If you are a Baylor fan, Austin announced his commitment at the Adidas Tournament and had his family standing with him. He mentioned that his family was the most important thing to him and that he had promised his mother that she would be able to see him play every game, so he wanted to go somewhere close to home.

I believe that they live in Burleson, so if you want to go somewhere D-1 within reasonable driving distance so your parents can attend every home game, that means Baylor, SMU, TCU, UNT or UTA.

Drew's staff has been recruiting Austin since he was an eighth grader, with him attending numerous BU camps. He took another unofficial visit to BU just last week. Baylor took a similar approach with Perry Jones who supposedly gave them a verbal commit while he was a freshman in HS. BU knew Jones was going to be a good recruit at that point, but had no idea that he would blow up on the AAU scene into a Top 5 National Recruit who has a good chance to be a one-and-done.

When he was committing to BU Monday night, he mentioned that he was close friends with Perry Jones. And I am sure Baylor's Elite Eight run last season is helping them quite a bit with their recruiting targets.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby CalallenStang » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:52 pm

Shoe placements and working the AAU circuit. It's really no secret at all. Plus, the guy has more to sell than SMU does (Major conference school that draws well in a backwater city offers a lot more in terms of what these kids want than a mid-major in a large city that doesn't know the basketball team exists - see the success of Duke and Syracuse relative to that of Charlotte and Fordham).

Sure, there are rumors that Drew bends the rules. No one has pointed any specific rule that he has broken, though (and if you know of one, please go to the papers with it). The shoe/AAU scene (it's all intertwined) is slimy, and I'm not denying that. But to suggest that the guy is cheating just because he plays that game is pretty ignorant. Go and find the tangible evidence that he breaks rules, and report it.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby PonyDoh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:17 am

CalallenStang wrote:Shoe placements and working the AAU circuit. It's really no secret at all. Plus, the guy has more to sell than SMU does (Major conference school that draws well in a backwater city offers a lot more in terms of what these kids want than a mid-major in a large city that doesn't know the basketball team exists - see the success of Duke and Syracuse relative to that of Charlotte and Fordham).

Sure, there are rumors that Drew bends the rules. No one has pointed any specific rule that he has broken, though (and if you know of one, please go to the papers with it). The shoe/AAU scene (it's all intertwined) is slimy, and I'm not denying that. But to suggest that the guy is cheating just because he plays that game is pretty ignorant. Go and find the tangible evidence that he breaks rules, and report it.


LOL, someone audit Lawrence Johns.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby PonyDoh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:30 am

CalallenStang wrote:Shoe placements and working the AAU circuit. It's really no secret at all. Plus, the guy has more to sell than SMU does (Major conference school that draws well in a backwater city offers a lot more in terms of what these kids want than a mid-major in a large city that doesn't know the basketball team exists - see the success of Duke and Syracuse relative to that of Charlotte and Fordham).

Sure, there are rumors that Drew bends the rules. No one has pointed any specific rule that he has broken, though (and if you know of one, please go to the papers with it). The shoe/AAU scene (it's all intertwined) is slimy, and I'm not denying that. But to suggest that the guy is cheating just because he plays that game is pretty ignorant. Go and find the tangible evidence that he breaks rules, and report it.


First off, don't advocate snitching, especially when we're the only program under investigation. Second, nobody ever puts the finger on cheaters specifically, but it's always known in industry circles , who is & isn't afraid to get dirty. Personally, I really like Drew, but eventually something will catch up w/him, no different than Cal.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby NickSMU17 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:19 am

Has anything really ever caught up to Cal?
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby PonyDoh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:33 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:Has anything really ever caught up to Cal?


Yes & no, I guess. Two vacated Final Fours is pretty disgraceful, but it's apparently a forgiving industry. His recruiting prowess at Kentucky is almost once in a lifetime stuff.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby CalallenStang » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:41 pm

PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Shoe placements and working the AAU circuit. It's really no secret at all. Plus, the guy has more to sell than SMU does (Major conference school that draws well in a backwater city offers a lot more in terms of what these kids want than a mid-major in a large city that doesn't know the basketball team exists - see the success of Duke and Syracuse relative to that of Charlotte and Fordham).

Sure, there are rumors that Drew bends the rules. No one has pointed any specific rule that he has broken, though (and if you know of one, please go to the papers with it). The shoe/AAU scene (it's all intertwined) is slimy, and I'm not denying that. But to suggest that the guy is cheating just because he plays that game is pretty ignorant. Go and find the tangible evidence that he breaks rules, and report it.


First off, don't advocate snitching, especially when we're the only program under investigation. Second, nobody ever puts the finger on cheaters specifically, but it's always known in industry circles , who is & isn't afraid to get dirty. Personally, I really like Drew, but eventually something will catch up w/him, no different than Cal.


I don't advocate snitching unless there is something so blatant out there that it can't be ignored any longer.

I know you know how Drew recruits. It's a game that he plays and Cal plays as well, and others in the coaching world (Gary Williams, for example) don't play. There's a reason why those that play the game get better recruits than those that don't, and that's because of who is really in control of the process.

I've said before that we should grab an AAU guy as an assistant, just as Baylor did. We don't have to fully participate in the game to succeed in CUSA, but we will need to fully participate if we want to be on the same playing field for these recruits as the Baylors and Kentuckys of the world are.
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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby PonyDoh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:23 pm

CalallenStang wrote:
PonyDoh wrote:
CalallenStang wrote:Shoe placements and working the AAU circuit. It's really no secret at all. Plus, the guy has more to sell than SMU does (Major conference school that draws well in a backwater city offers a lot more in terms of what these kids want than a mid-major in a large city that doesn't know the basketball team exists - see the success of Duke and Syracuse relative to that of Charlotte and Fordham).

Sure, there are rumors that Drew bends the rules. No one has pointed any specific rule that he has broken, though (and if you know of one, please go to the papers with it). The shoe/AAU scene (it's all intertwined) is slimy, and I'm not denying that. But to suggest that the guy is cheating just because he plays that game is pretty ignorant. Go and find the tangible evidence that he breaks rules, and report it.


First off, don't advocate snitching, especially when we're the only program under investigation. Second, nobody ever puts the finger on cheaters specifically, but it's always known in industry circles , who is & isn't afraid to get dirty. Personally, I really like Drew, but eventually something will catch up w/him, no different than Cal.


I don't advocate snitching unless there is something so blatant out there that it can't be ignored any longer.

I know you know how Drew recruits. It's a game that he plays and Cal plays as well, and others in the coaching world (Gary Williams, for example) don't play. There's a reason why those that play the game get better recruits than those that don't, and that's because of who is really in control of the process.

I've said before that we should grab an AAU guy as an assistant, just as Baylor did. We don't have to fully participate in the game to succeed in CUSA, but we will need to fully participate if we want to be on the same playing field for these recruits as the Baylors and Kentuckys of the world are.


Yea, I agree w/all of that. What's funny is that even Gary Williams has an AAU guy on his bench now. Bino Ransom came from Xavier, but his resume was built on starting AAU power, Team Baltimore Elite. Gary hires "uncle bino', as the elite kids call him, the same summer Nick Faust(6'8 SG) blows up into a national top 25 kid. Coincidence?

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Re: How is Baylor doing this?

Postby gostangs » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:56 pm

Why wouldnt we completely play the game and hire and deal with the AAU guys? We do that or we stay mid to poor
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