DMN - Letter to the editor

[EastStang]

Sort of like the Northwestern Chant "That's all right, that's okay, you're going to work for us someday." Or the William and Mary chant, "A horse's [deleted], a horse's [deleted], a horse's as am I, I'd rather be a horse's [deleted] than go to VPI." (VPI = Virginia Tech).

[abezontar]

to JayM and MeanGreen, I would be willing to bet that if you did a search of all the alumni of most schools, you would be able to find at least one person with the initials A.B. Thomas. Why don't the two of you check to see if this person is an alum of UNT, or are you afraid that it is possible that it isn't someone with a connection to SMU writing this letter. Until you two prove that he is connected with SMU I am going to follow in your footsteps and assume he went to where ever I want him to be from and say he is an alum of William and Mary and therefore a horse's [deleted].

[gostangs]

L.A. - I'm with you - I hope the conference is leaning east for extra market coverage - I might prefer Temple to Miami (O), due to the bigger available market, but either one works. Of course, obviously all we have to do is decide and have Turner phone it in, because it is SMU's sole decision after all, according to the Kermits. And after the vast and powerful red and blue conspiracy is finished reorganizing college football, we can move on to deciding that pesky presidential election thing...

[MeanGreenGem]

This is like trying to reason with children (JayM and MeanGreenGem). I wouldn’t be surprised if JayM, MeanGreenGem, and A.B. Thomas are the same person. Either way, I find the NTSU supporter(s) amusing.

Reason with children? Seems like you're acting like a spoiled brat. I find posters like you amusing even though it's apparent you're not well informed.

JayM, LA_Mustang seems easily amused about a lot of things. Maybe if he were to look into a mirror and think about some of the lagniape he has posted he could even add that to all his other musings?:)

Does UNT in CUSA makes cents? Yeah, sorta' like the SMU alum who wrote the DMN letter to the editor stated. I'd also add that a perennial bowl elgible school (that has already beaten a CUSA football co-champion in a bowl) and a school in a top 10 US TV market with a large constituency would make all kinds of cents. But this is really not about cents but rather age-old politics most of which is based on perception that has little to do with this modern era of NCAA football.

Yet look at how long schools are staying put in conferences as it is? At one time all we heard down here was how the WAC was the next best thing to sliced bread and then before you knew it, that whole loaf of bread went stale.

All this conference musical chairs will not be over by a long shot even after this go around and what UNT already has in place for revenue producing sports, ie, the Super Pit OR is now building on about 200 acres of prime interstate real estate between 2 Texas interstates will give us some nice hands for the future in this NCAA card game.

FWIW, this December UNT will once again be in a bowl that has CUSA ties so who out there wants to continue debating any point or merit concerning NORTH TEXAS' worth as a revenue sport producing program in Conference USA?!?!? Seems those schools who have programs that go to bowl games and travel fans to those bowl games quite impressively would be a plus (and not a negative); that is, unless good old fashioned collegiate-style amateur competion makes some a bit timid.

[Charleston Pony]

What? No Nora Jones reference yet from you, MGG? You've made it clear to anyone who reads your posts that UNT will soon surpass UT as THE University of Texas.

I agree with those who point to SMU getting WAY TOO MUCH credit for steering the future alignment of CUSA. Weren't we #117 in I-A football last year?

BTW, I still think it should have been settled on the field between SMU & Army!!!

[EastStang]

Mean Green's poast maid a lotta cents. And we thought NTSU was a teacher's college.

[Charleston Pony]

as long as we are such a powerful force in re-shaping conference alignments, I think we should re-form the SWC, but this time let's do it without UT and A$M. After all, we'd all like to compete for championships once in a while.

SMU, TCU, UNT, Houston, Rice, Baylor, Tulsa, Tulane & La Tech.

Or...should we consider 12 teams and add 3 more from among UTEP, NMSU, Ark St and La-Laf? After all, WE will make the decision. Surely the entire nation will want to see a championship game from this group. I think we should use our influence to land the Cotton Bowl as the bowl we will send our champion to. Perhaps the Sun Bowl, Ft Worth, Houston, Independence and New Orleans bowls could serve as destinations for other teams who become bowl eligible.

We really should be using this incredible influence and power we have to better our position in the world of inter-collegiate athletics. If only we had been thinking more clearly. Gotta thank this Thomas fella for bringing this to our attention. Sure hope Copeland and Turner read this post.

[WreckEm16]

SMU had to be co-erced to change their minds and their vote on TTech when west Texans from all over the Panhandle threatened a major boycott of that famous Dallas' store by a letter writing campaign with their threat to cut up all their N/M charge cards and mail them back to that Dallas department store's HQ's in Big D.

This, believe it or not, is a true story. In fact, it was only by threatening to secede from the state (and take valuable oil revenue with them) that West Texans were able to persuade the legislature to get them a school at all (Texas Technological College, later Texas Tech University).

In any case, the point is well made that there are maybe a dozen people alive right now who give a rat's @ss whether or not SMU was for TTech and UH getting into the SWC. Offering 50 year old objections as reasons for current shortcomings is flawed, to say the least. This does not sound like someone with SMU ties to me.

That will be $.02 please.

[MeanGreenGem]

to JayM and MeanGreen, I would be willing to bet that if you did a search of all the alumni of most schools, you would be able to find at least one person with the initials A.B. Thomas. Why don't the two of you check to see if this person is an alum of UNT, or are you afraid that it is possible that it isn't someone with a connection to SMU writing this letter. Until you two prove that he is connected with SMU I am going to follow in your footsteps and assume he went to where ever I want him to be from and say he is an alum of William and Mary and therefore a horse's [deleted].

Afraid? UNT'ers afraid of what the truth is as we still listen and read posts from some of your alums who hold on to Aesop's fairy tales sent from one SMU generation to the next concerning UNT in order for yall to create what I presume is some comfort/safe zone concerning that great evil empire from the north-------- NORTH TEXAS?

Yet the hypocrisy of this with UNT while you do not have problems scheduling schools (California Northridge for chrissakes?) you all knew nothing about when yall were in the SWC? Add your president's collegue over at La Tech to that long list. You know La Tech? The school that is not 45 minutes from University Park?

SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE, SMU? You are only fooling yourselves because few in the Metroplex believe anything SMU says about UNT anymore. Just ask a few of them who live outside University Park. Use teacher's college/commuter school with that group and they might ask you, "but have you seen all that construction going on at their Denton campus?" 'Are they doing all that for commuters?" Such a person might also suggests "someone has to stay in all those older dorms, newer dorms and the ones being built and usually campus residents fill that bill--not commuters.":)

One of our alums checked some internet re-locating source today and found that person who wrote the DMN letter to (in deed) be from Carrollton and was a gent in his mid 60's. I've checked an older "NTSU" alumnus directory and did not find his name in it.

I don't know any UNT alums at that age of life who would have such a passion to write a letter to the editor under a false pretense of being an SMU alum. If he would have been from UNT, most 60 plus year olds would tell you they were from UNT.

<>*<> What about the possibility that that person was actually from SMU (because in my heart of hearts, I really think he was)?!?!?

AND abezontar.....take it easy on BILL & MARY!

[JayM]

Frankly I could care less where the writer is from. I do think it's hilarious that because this letter to the editor is not complimentary that no one feels that it was written by someone with ties to smu. Doesn't the DMN verify names and addresses BEFORE posting letters to the editor? The very small circle of posters on this board naturally assumes that the culprit must be from NT. I love visiting this board. It's a classic study of delusions & denial.

[leopold]

Look, I have tried to explain to ya'll who is going to keep you out of C-USA, and they aren't in Dallas. So instead of wasting my breath and telling you why this probably isn't going to happen, I am going to keep it short and sweet:

Enjoy the Sun Belt.

[EastStang]

I love how you bring up Cal State Northridge. A last minute schedule change caused an open home date. Every school in Texas, La., Ark. and Oklahoma who was 1-A or 1-AA was given a chance at that game. By scheduling a 1-AA team, (and losing to winless TCU) we cost ourselves a bowl bid that year. Too bad UNT didn't have the cajones to move their schedule around to play us that year.

[gostangs]

Jay - in answer to your question - why would the DMN check anything - the writer never claims to be SMU related - in only one area does he even imply - "I will not drive to Ruston". Probably not, because as a UNT fan he will not need to. It is clear through the references to Hayden Fry, mean ol signs, and the laundry list that this is someone with an SMU hang up. There are plenty of things an SMU fan (or ex fan) could complain about, but none of them are on his list.

MGM - I am sure there is lots of construction in Denton - nobody ever went broke aiming for the lowest common denominator. Ask Walmart.

[MeanGreenGem]

Jay - in answer to your question - why would the DMN check anything - the writer never claims to be SMU related - in only one area does he even imply - "I will not drive to Ruston". Probably not, because as a UNT fan he will not need to. It is clear through the references to Hayden Fry, mean ol signs, and the laundry list that this is someone with an SMU hang up. There are plenty of things an SMU fan (or ex fan) could complain about, but none of them are on his list.

MGM - I am sure there is lots of construction in Denton - nobody ever went broke aiming for the lowest common denominator. Ask Walmart.

You have obviously not been on our campus the last 24 months to see your's (and my) tax dollars at work at a booming Texas public university. If facilities like the Super Pit are facilities you describe in your lowest common denominator gibberish, then you and I have lost our common ground to even discuss such matters as Texas public university construction. Speaking of those Texas tax dollars, none of those dollars can be used for athletic construction at at Texas public university for those who think otherwise.

BTW, the majority of Texans who have a degree have them from a public university. Many of those who your school needs to buy tickets at Ford have such degrees. You going to diss that group, too? No, certainly not the elitism I'm sure you're accustomed or would prefer but the reality of all this is is how even most of you with private school educations are still forced to mix, mingle and do much of your business with those who went the public university route.

AND.........FYI and since you mentioned WalMart? That Fortune 500 retail outlet was begun by a gentleman who merely had a GED so sometimes a person's worth to our sociey has nothing to do with whatever kind of college he attended or the fraternity he pledged.

[Dooby]

This thread still going on? Ughh. Look. Clearly, UNT is a fine school. I mean Norah Jones is pretty cute. She doesn't have that glassy-eyed pot smoking haze stoner look about her that we so often associate with NTSU. And just read the letter that started this stupid thread. It was clearly written by an intelligent and eloquent UNT fan.

Can't we all just get along and join hands in our common distaste for the school in Tarrant County?