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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby PonyKai » Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:33 pm

soccermom wrote:Give me break..........ut players have ALWAYS been known to do illegal things---like being paid for summer jobs where they never worked, free housing. We can't put a timeline on their illegal ways. I love winning and am so excited to be on the right track, but I don't want it to come w/us having a bunch of thugs/criminals on our team so I am hoping RednBLue11's reference to our team's trouble meaning more W's for us is way off track!
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Please don't equate someone taking a hand out while in college to being a thug, or a criminal. It implies a shocking amount of naivete.
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby soccermom » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:26 pm

I really don't need you to tell me how to think.......if someone does something that is illegal according to rules/laws then they are criminals, and that makes them thugs, in my opinion.
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby RednBlue11 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:27 pm

soccermom wrote:Give me break..........ut players have ALWAYS been known to do illegal things---like being paid for summer jobs where they never worked, free housing. We can't put a timeline on their illegal ways. I love winning and am so excited to be on the right track, but I don't want it to come w/us having a bunch of thugs/criminals on our team so I am hoping RednBLue11's reference to our team's trouble meaning more W's for us is way off track!
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Penn St.

FSU

Florida

Alabama

UNC

USC

Miami

Texas

OU

Mich St.

i don't have the time to make a complete list, and there may already be a list out there of all the schools that have disciplinary issues that are highly successful.

like I pointed out...correlation is NOT causation.

but it can't be a coincidence

and as long as we are going to include fake jobs and paying players, let's not get beyond the reason that this program sucked for two decades.
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby RednBlue11 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:28 pm

soccermom wrote:I really don't need you to tell me how to think.......if someone does something that is illegal according to rules/laws then they are criminals, and that makes them thugs, in my opinion.



I go 5 over the speed limit regularly, I am a thug
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby RednBlue11 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:30 pm

soccermom wrote:I really don't need you to tell me how to think.......if someone does something that is illegal according to rules/laws then they are criminals, and that makes them thugs, in my opinion.


someone feel free to correct me here, but...

I think that taking money as an amateur athlete is not actually a criminal act...it may be morally reprehensible but I don't believe that they will be published by anyone other than the NCAA (erasing records, giving back awards) or the NFLPA (paying back what they were given).
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby soccermom » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:35 pm

Oh, I know the list is VERY long and probably could include every school that has a team. I also know what we did to get the DP, and what we did was wrong, but we would have never been given the DP if we hadn't very successfully beaten ut at their own game---both on the field and off.
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby PonyKai » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:54 pm

There is an enormous difference between a thug and someone who accepts petty gifts when everyone around them is cashing in and the University that employs them makes potentially millions off their name and their athletic ability alone. Compound that with the fact that a good deal of college athletes come from backgrounds other than your traditional SMU student packing daddy's credit card. That doesn't make it right, but it sure doesn't make them a thug or criminal in the mold of a Ray Lewis, Donte Stallworth, Michael Vick. Actually it doesn't make them a criminal. A criminal is someone involved in a crime, or the commission of an act that is forbidden or the omission of a duty that is commanded by a public law. They broke the rule of a a private entity. Hell, it pales in comparison to the jackassery of tools like Bill Romanowski, Rodney Harrison, and Marcus Vick. Those are thugs. Half our teams in the 80's had their hands in the cookie jar, and for not a single one of them does that act alone make them a thug, or a criminal. The difference is stark, and incredibly easy to recognize.

By the way, I said please, I did not tell you how to think. The word please, to ask if you have the kindness to do something.
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student athletes don't have to be amateurs

Postby Sam I Am » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:08 pm

To restate an old axiom, the definition of being a student athlete is about academics not amateurism. Like the Olympics and pro tennis, college football needs to get realistic about the status of its athletics. The difference between a pro football player and a college player is not the money, but enrollment in higher education and meeting the full scholastic standards that are required of all other students. Players should get whatever the schools can afford. The only reason that the NCAA hasn't admitted that players are getting compensations is that most schools can't even afford the programs they already have. So lay off the criticisms of players when it comes to money. It is unfair and hypocritical. If football players break a civil or criminal law, then put them in jail annd call them bad names; but only then and not otherwise.
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby froglicious » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:00 am

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Harry0569 wrote:UT is going to put 8 guys in the box and dare TMartinez to beat them through the air. Unfortunately, UT has zero offense, so eventually Nebraska will rolllllll

Must be a pretty big box if 8 guys can fit in there


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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby froglicious » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:13 am

RednBlue11 wrote:correlation is not causation, but....

i see our team's "trouble" with the law as being a positive sign for more W's per season in the near future.


Someone has been listening to Coli Cowherd again.
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Re: UT Blogger Compares UT and SMU offenses

Postby RednBlue11 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:24 am

froglicious wrote:
RednBlue11 wrote:correlation is not causation, but....

i see our team's "trouble" with the law as being a positive sign for more W's per season in the near future.


Someone has been listening to Coli Cowherd again.


Cowherd is a blowhard, I avoid him as much as I possibly can.

If Cowherd had anything original to say about sports it would be the 1st time.
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